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You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
UTG is unknown, but SB is 23/4/1.8 after 90 hands.
I never call reraise, but he made me want to, and I thought it was the perfect opportunity. Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, SB calls. Turn: (9 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, SB calls. River: (11 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls. Final Pot: 17 BB Thoughts? |
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
Flush draw and a gutshot with 2 opponents is +Ev. Looks perfect to me. You can expect an UTG raise and you can rereaise for value, which you did. If it simply gets called through, that kind of sucks, but having 2 people come with when you're on a draw makes for better implied ods than raising immediately and only getting the SB to come along. I don't think you win without hitting your draw, so chasing UTG out at the flop doesn't really help.
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO.
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The turn may get checked through, but you also may not hit your hand. Also, calling on the flop and check-raising the turn gives you more bluffing equity IMO (it looks like you slowplayed a monster). |
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The turn may get checked through, but you also may not hit your hand. Also, calling on the flop and check-raising the turn gives you more bluffing equity IMO (it looks like you slowplayed a monster). [/ QUOTE ] I seriously doubt I am winning this pot by having my opponents fold. |
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would not 3-bet the flop because I want to keep UTG in the lead. If you hit your hand, you can then check-raise the field. The chance to get 2 extra BB with 95%+ equity is better than 2 extra SB with 56% equity IMO. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think the turn ever gets checked through? Also, if I do check raise the turn in a protected pot, UTG may fold, and I might not get his BB. Furthermore, this disguises my hand, so I may induce extra action. I am not sure if it is correct, but I sure liked it, and hope it is [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The turn may get checked through, but you also may not hit your hand. Also, calling on the flop and check-raising the turn gives you more bluffing equity IMO (it looks like you slowplayed a monster). [/ QUOTE ] I think that talking about fold equity in a hand with a limp reraise is pretty silly. Either the guy has a big pair that he is representing OR he plays his hand like he has it so getting folds will be uncommon. |
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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Second, I think the flop equity is so large that you're giving up too much. The hero has 12 outs, he's a 1.2:1 favorite to win by the river. By 3-betting the flop he's getting in an extra BB, of which the hero nets .833 given his odds of winning. So, 3 betting the flop = +.83BB [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure this is flawed. You are giving hero 83% equity, which he doesn't have. |
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Re: You LRR me, so I CRR you back!
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[ QUOTE ] Second, I think the flop equity is so large that you're giving up too much. The hero has 12 outs, he's a 1.2:1 favorite to win by the river. By 3-betting the flop he's getting in an extra BB, of which the hero nets .833 given his odds of winning. So, 3 betting the flop = +.83BB [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure this is flawed. You are giving hero 83% equity, which he doesn't have. [/ QUOTE ] Argh, yea, 1/1.2 = 83%, but it should be 1/2.2 = 45%. Flop bet is still better EV depend on how you see the odds of a check through or 4-flush hurting you, but it's much closer. I suck so I deleted my post. |
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