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Old 11-28-2005, 10:01 PM
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Default Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

The board looked like trouble but everyone acted weak

UTG is 41.38/5.75%PFR/0.67 AF/87 hands. I read him as textbook calling station. and he has gone to showdown 35% of the time

UTG+1 is 53.49/4.65%PFR/2.13 AF/43 hands. He's been killing the rest of the table with nonstop betting and taking most of the pots without showdown. I successfully isolated him twice and took down nice pots when he showed bottom pair.



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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds,Hero 3-bets,5 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks,Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (9.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT). I would assume UTG is would raise AA and JJ preflop, probably KQ as well, so I think you can rule out those hands. I think you're ahead enough on the river to 3-bet the raise.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

UTG did raise preflop
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

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I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT). I would assume UTG is would raise AA and JJ preflop, probably KQ as well, so I think you can rule out those hands. I think you're ahead enough on the river to 3-bet the raise.

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As for the concern about the PFR - If you are beat then there is nothing you can do about it. You've got a great hand and have to push that edge against loose opponents that have done nothing up to this point but call.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

That is a strange betting pattern by UTG. Check-Raising the river? Huh. I can't really put him on a hand with that play. Strange indeed.

Anyway, I probably play the hand the same way but im not sure about the turn. I'm probably to big of a wuss there and check behind because of them calling me down all the time so they must be on something. But I prolly bet it 50% of the times here aswell.

On the river I raise his raise. I have the best hand. I have a really really hard time putting him on JJ or AA here.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

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I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT).

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He wouldn't raise UTG with those hands.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:20 AM
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I think UTG woke up with two pair on the river (AT, JT).

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He wouldn't raise UTG with those hands.

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Yup. Misread the post. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

UTG is a wuss, you are beat, and he's just calling down to "save" himself money. How about trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible by checking the turn and taking a free card?
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:31 PM
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UTG is a wuss, you are beat, and he's just calling down to "save" himself money. How about trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible by checking the turn and taking a free card?

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Are you kidding about this?
The turn check is very weak - I'm not giving any free cards to the loose players. I might bet the turn then fold to raise but most likely call turn reraise and fold UI vs another river bet.

If UI it take the free card on the river only......
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: Overplayed TT into EP Raise?

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UTG is a wuss, you are beat, and he's just calling down to "save" himself money. How about trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible by checking the turn and taking a free card?

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Are you kidding about this?
The turn check is very weak - I'm not giving any free cards to the loose players. I might bet the turn then fold to raise but most likely call turn reraise and fold UI vs another river bet.

If UI it take the free card on the river only......

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Actually, yeah, that's much better, bet turn, check behind on river.
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