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Old 11-24-2005, 01:54 AM
JAP JAP is offline
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Default TT on low flop.

1 2 NL

- SB sitting in seat 1 with $131.25
- Hero sitting in seat 2 with $458.91
- UTG sitting in seat 3 with $220.30
- MP sitting in seat 4 with $168.45
- Co sitting in seat 5 with $269.60
- Villain sitting in seat 6 with $95.00 [Dealer]

SB posted the small blind - $1.00
Hero posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to Hero: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folded
MP called - $2.00
Co called - $2.00
Villain raised - $14.00
SB folded
Hero called - $14.00
MP folded
Co folded

** Dealing the flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero checked
Villain bet - $28.00


No reads, what do you do?
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

Fold preflop.
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

Ok, why? You read his raise to be a too good hand? and if so then that he's not deep enough to be worth hitting trips on?
If you really read him for AA-QQ you can bet your getting him all in on the flop so then a call should be all right?
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

Depends how the guy plays, if he's known to make a lot of bluffs then u would wanna call or raise him. it looks like a standard continuation bet even. In general I'd put him on pockets... low- medium ones, I think you're behind only to JJ
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

Why would you call the huge riase of 7xbb with 10 10 OOP. If this guy is that much of a donk to do that with lower PP then you, take a not and bust him with a real hand. No point in going broke on the "bluff" read and fpsing.
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

You are right, if you really read him for AA-QQ and read that you will get him all in if you hit your trips then it's a slight ev- call. 7.67 to 1.
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Old 11-24-2005, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

I think the call preflop is OK with TT, with 22 for example its an instafold because you cannot call only for set value as many said, according to 5/10 rule.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

Ok, i wasnt calling for set value though, so that's all good.
I like your line hattifnatt to bet out, that would have given me some information cheaper.
When he bet out 28 he didnt have much left and i felt that he could very well have AK as it looked like a standard CB and i was pretty sure he would fold AK for an all in. I invested 82 to win 63.
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

Ok you have absolutly no odds to call this raise OOP with your medium PP. It's a -EV call becuase of the fact that you only flop a set 1:8 flops and your getting 1.16:1 to make this call preflop. As you can see the numbers dont add up and over the long run you would lose a tremendous amount of money thinking of your Implied odds here, when you dont even have the straigh odds to call, and you wont stack him every time you hit your set.
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Old 11-24-2005, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: TT on low flop.

Ok, with no read, just a regular 200NL 6 max player. Is the general consenus to fold preflop? And what move on the flop if you called?
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