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Old 11-22-2005, 04:55 AM
technologic technologic is offline
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Default old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

hand from a while back
wynn 2/5 NL effective stacks 1k

folded to hero on the button, picks up 45d
hero opens for 25, while remarking, "a position raise".

villain in bb, loose pf solid post flop, calls.

flop AQJr. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

turn blank. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

river A. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

whoops? should i have given up at some point?
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

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hand from a while back
wynn 2/5 NL effective stacks 1k

folded to hero on the button, picks up 45d
hero opens for 25, while remarking, "a position raise".

villain in bb, loose pf solid post flop, calls.

flop AQJr. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

turn blank. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

river A. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

whoops? should i have given up at some point?

[/ QUOTE ]I probably check turn and take free card without a read
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Old 11-22-2005, 07:42 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

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hand from a while back
wynn 2/5 NL effective stacks 1k

folded to hero on the button, picks up 45d
hero opens for 25, while remarking, "a position raise".

villain in bb, loose pf solid post flop, calls.

flop AQJr. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

turn blank. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

river A. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

whoops? should i have given up at some point?

[/ QUOTE ]I probably check turn and take free card without a read

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check turn, sure. Free card? How can that help?
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

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hand from a while back
wynn 2/5 NL effective stacks 1k

folded to hero on the button, picks up 45d
hero opens for 25, while remarking, "a position raise".

villain in bb, loose pf solid post flop, calls.

flop AQJr. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

turn blank. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

river A. villain checks, hero pots, villain calls.

whoops? should i have given up at some point?

[/ QUOTE ]I probably check turn and take free card without a read

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check turn, sure. Free card? How can that help?

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He loses less money, openfolding turn is also an option. This game plays far more like SSNL than an online 1000NL.
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Old 11-22-2005, 05:00 AM
Garland Garland is offline
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Default Re: old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

I would have given up preflop. If I decided not to give up then, I would have given up after potting the flop. If I decided not to give up by then, I would have given up after potting the turn. After he calls the turn, and I see the river A, I muck my cards before he even has a chance to act.

Garland
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Old 11-22-2005, 05:07 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

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should i have given up at some point?

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The second you felt like stopping the spewage.

What kind of hands does BB flat call a raise with?

Yeah.. exactly. Give up after the flop.
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Old 11-22-2005, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

let's look at the positives - at least you get to show on the river and get called down for the rest of the night : )
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Old 11-22-2005, 07:47 AM
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that river bet is pretty horrible.
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:17 PM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default Re: old hand...when to keep the third barrel in the gun

the biggest problem with that river bet is that his turn call has already told you that he thinks his hand is good (likely a king or better) and that river card only m akes it easier for him to call you down.

Definately, definately, give up after that second barrel, not that i would have fired a second one anyway.
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Old 11-22-2005, 06:10 PM
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whoops? should i have given up at some point?

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Yeah... preflop... why does everyone have to be such a god damn hero and raise on the button.

1) Has our play become so bad that we don't know when the next time is that we will be able to pick up 8 whole dollars?

2) Does the dealer actually look at the blinds starting hands to be sure they never get anything descent?

come on... give a guy a march.

P.S. How much money did you blow trying to pick-up $8... I guarentee you will have to play 30 sessions, stealing every single blind to make up for 3 pot size bets on that scary ass board.

i hope this post was joke!!
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