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Old 11-17-2005, 09:36 PM
Ortho Ortho is offline
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Default 11: Should I push here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t1405)
BB (t530)
UTG (t1555)
UTG+1 (t1090)
MP1 (t555)
Hero (t605)
MP3 (t705)
CO (t655)
Button (t900)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Folded to Hero.
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Old 11-17-2005, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

There are too many players left that can wake up with a real hand. Just fold.
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Old 11-17-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

To be fair there's only 5. A push here isn't really bad.. personally I would do it sometimes, it depends on the table dynamics.. and other times I would just let it go. Very read-dependent, this one.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

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To be fair there's only 5. A push here isn't really bad.. personally I would do it sometimes, it depends on the table dynamics.. and other times I would just let it go. Very read-dependent, this one.

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Agree 100%. I think pushing or folding are both pretty close here.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

Wow this is really suprising because I push this every time. I think this is about the cutoff at this position for me though. Is this a push from the CO? What hands make this an easy push from this position?
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

Going through 5 people is what makes this so marginal. If you get called you can't be in good shape. I think pushing AT+ here is "easy" but A9 and even A8 are probably marginal. I'm tired and not really running the numbers at all though, so those are my answers just by feel.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

It's +0.4% if you put all the players on 66+, ATs+, AJo+ calling standards. And I don't think that's going to happen on 10+1s.

On the other hand.. there's still 9 players left, so it's going to be pretty much crapshoot anyways. Also if the blinds go up before they get to you, you might want to push too. Yeah, I'm starting to see push options too.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

How common is it on party to have 9 people left with the blinds this high at an 11?
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

It's not that common. But that doesn't mean that there's no loose players.
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Old 11-18-2005, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: 11: Should I push here?

I would push here most of the time.
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