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Old 11-16-2005, 09:39 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default AK0 between two very interested TAGS

SB in this hand is 18/10/1.8 over 1000 hands
CO is 17/10/2.2, also a significant sample

I haven't been here long and I haven't gotten out of line.

This might seem silly but I'm trying to rethink lots of stuff, but, how are we playing this flop?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>,
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:54 PM
Joe Tall Joe Tall is offline
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

You gave a read on the SB but it's the BB in the hand and the SB folded....but you are in a raise or fold situation and it looks like a fold.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

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You gave a read on the SB but it's the BB in the hand and the SB folded.

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you know what I meant
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

I think CO most likely has an overpair and won't fold this flop even if you raise. The only hand you may want him to fold based on his likely PF 3-betting standards is AK but even so you still have to contend with BB. However, I think you are getting good odds to peel so a call is in order.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

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However, I think you are getting good odds to peel so a call is in order.


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He's sandwiched between aggressors, this is a horrible spot to just call.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

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He's sandwiched between aggressors, this is a horrible spot to just call.

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CO may wait for a safe turn to raise and allow us to see it for only one bet. A raise will get called here a large majority of the time, and we stand the chance of getting 3-bet. With two overs and a backdoor nut flush draw in a largish pot I don't think folding is correct. Therefore calling &gt; folding &gt; raising IMO.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

These are good TAGs. If they're waiting to the turn to raise, it means my overs aren't worth chit.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

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but you are in a raise or fold situation

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Why?
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: AK0 between two very interested TAGS

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but you are in a raise or fold situation

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Why?

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Yeah... why?
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default bumping the raise or fold discussion

n/m
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