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Old 11-16-2005, 06:13 PM
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Default K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Pretty loose game with mostly passive opponents. No read on villian in this one.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Checked to me so I bet. I doubt my hand is good but I have the nut backdoor flush draw as well. Anyone check? Betting may allow me a free card if I want to use it on the turn.

Turn: (4 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Heads up now. I checked and hoped to induce a bluff from my opponent on the river.

River: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Should I have bet turn as well? I like how I played it but Im interested in hearing other points of view.

Final Pot: 6 BB
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:29 PM
MrWookie47 MrWookie47 is offline
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

I think that if you're going to see a showdown with this hand, you're better off betting the turn and checking the river behind than giving a free card on the turn.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

Gives my opponent one more chance to fold if I bet the turn. Thanks for the thoughts.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

Well one problem with inducing bluffs on this board is that any 8,10 or weak A beats you. I could easily see villian playing a weak A this way.

If you bet the turn take the free showdown, I don't call a turn c/r or river donk after leading the turn.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

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PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Pretty loose game with mostly passive opponents. No read on villian in this one.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Checked to me so I bet. I doubt my hand is good but I have the nut backdoor flush draw as well. Anyone check? Betting may allow me a free card if I want to use it on the turn.

Turn: (4 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Heads up now. I checked and hoped to induce a bluff from my opponent on the river.

River: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Should I have bet turn as well? I like how I played it but Im interested in hearing other points of view.

Final Pot: 6 BB

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I don't bet this flop, I just take the free card. Too many players will play any A.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

Flop bet is pretty so-so based on the board texture. Problem is it's very easy for you to get called and you can't keep betting each street with this hand.

How you played it, I would fold the river. Nearly any hand he can call the flop with was already ahead of yours or got there.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

*grunch*
Preflop - K7s marginal with this few callers otherwise I agree
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

Nah, preflop should be very easy.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

preflop standard

check flop - too many players to knock them all out

inducing a bluff has its spots - this isn't one of them

you have a pair of 7s - not really a hand you can give a free river card to (if you're ahead)
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: K7s flops bottom pair vs 5 opponents

Thanks for the help. Villian held an 8.
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