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Old 11-16-2005, 05:54 AM
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Default slim or bad?

All opponents were really bad lags like 60/10

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:57 AM
MyTurn2Raise MyTurn2Raise is offline
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Default Re: slim or bad?

Preflop: Fold (debatable)
Flop: Fold--(missed on a flyer--c ya) too many opponents for there to be no 9,5, or overpair--runner runner draws are very, very bad.
Turn: Hella-Fold--How many opponents have cards (Chances of a 9,5, or pair that could fill in their hands=Very freaking huge)
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

runner runner draws are NOT very, very bad.

why do you think so much time is spent discussing their importance if you should ignore them?

why must villain bet the turn with a boat?

although i agree the turn is uncomfortable.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:16 AM
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Fold preflop. T9s I call. T8s is far too marginal to call 2 cold.
On the flop you missed. You have a bdfs and a bdsd. 3 Outs in total plus perhaps .5 outs for your ten. How much do you need for 3.5 outs to call? Fold
I have no idea why you're calling the turn and the river.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:23 AM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

for 3 outs you need 1to 14.5, The pot was a little bigger than that
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

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for 3 outs you need 1to 14.5, The pot was a little bigger than that

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id give you a little less than 3 outs here since the board is paired and you have some significant reverse implied odds.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

if you call T9s...

T8s can't possibly be "far too marginal"
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: slim or bad?

I fold on every street.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:06 PM
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I fold on every street.

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I don't understand what street a call could possibly be good on. You could already be drawing nearly dead to your pair outs, and even your backdoor outs.

Particularly on the turn, there's a huge chance you're drawing dead...in a field this big, no one has a 9 or a 5?
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:46 PM
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in a field this big, no one has a 9 or a 5?

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nope.
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