Could i have played this hand worse?

[zaphod]

I have not played manyhands at this table, so no reads yet.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($72.35)
Button ($99.50)
SB ($223.85)
BB ($91.50)
UTG ($108.03)
Hero ($99)
UTG+2 ($122.90)
MP1 ($126.70)
MP2 ($96.50)
MP3 ($94.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($13) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

On the flop i led out by betting 10$, and folding(?????) to a raise to 30.

Arghh....

Why did i call preflop with 87suited in early position?

Anyway here i am on the flop with with a decent hit. What is my best line? Off course betting and folding(????) is horrble. I should just go ahead and push when i get raised. I cannot be fair behind(unless my opponent hit a set).

But what is my plan for the turn if i simply get called on the flop?

Is a better line simply to checkraise all in on the flop?

I'd probably call the raise, and check/call 2/3 PSB an unimproved turn. You have 5 outs to 2-pair or better as well as 9 outs to a flush, and a backdoor gutshot straight good for maybe half an out, which is 14.5 outs. If SB comes along to the raise (unlikely) then I'll call a PSB on the turn.

Edit: Don't c/r all-in unless you think there's a really good chance of him folding.

Wow, I ran the numbers out of curiosity...

Board: 7c Jd 3d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 50.7135 % 50.73% 00.00% { 8d7d }
Hand 2: 49.2865 % 49.30% 00.00% { AcAs }


Board: 7c Jd 3d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 29.1922 % 29.19% 00.00% { 8d7d }
Hand 2: 70.8078 % 70.81% 00.00% { JcJs }

/me became a better player today.

[Ghazban]

limp/calling 87s UTG is not so hot if you ask me. You got one of the best flops you can get so bet/3bet all-in would be my play. You're only screwed if he has JJ and it gives you a great image to push on a draw (despite being a small favorite against an overpair that doesn't contain a diamond).

[zaphod]

Ok, you bet/3bet all in on this flop, and get called.

So if i understand you correctly this is what you will use the image from this hand for:
Later hand same action. This time you hold 77( i guess limping with 77 is ok, unless the table is very aggresive?)
I guess you choose the same line here?
Or your opponent just calls your flop bet figureing he can push you off your hand on a nondiamond turn, but you got a little suprise for him?

[Ghazban]

The benefits of an image play are that the bad players don't realize that you are actually a slight mathematical favorite against black AA. They just see that you played a draw very aggressively and will erroneously conclude that you are on a draw in the future when you make an aggressive play like this. If showing this hand down gets you a call from middle pair later when you're holding top set (or even just top pair), you are very happy. You made a slightly +EV play that enabled you to make a hugely +EV play later.

[beavens]

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The benefits of an image play are that the bad players don't realize that you are actually a slight mathematical favorite against black AA. They just see that you played a draw very aggressively and will erroneously conclude that you are on a draw in the future when you make an aggressive play like this. If showing this hand down gets you a call from middle pair later when you're holding top set (or even just top pair), you are very happy. You made a slightly +EV play that enabled you to make a hugely +EV play later.

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is this 'metagame'?

[Ghazban]

Yes

[DWarrior]

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The benefits of an image play are that the bad players don't realize that you are actually a slight mathematical favorite against black AA. They just see that you played a draw very aggressively and will erroneously conclude that you are on a draw in the future when you make an aggressive play like this. If showing this hand down gets you a call from middle pair later when you're holding top set (or even just top pair), you are very happy. You made a slightly +EV play that enabled you to make a hugely +EV play later.

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The bad players keep notes on $100NL!?

[yvesaint]

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The bad players keep notes on $100NL!?

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bad player or not, they notice when you push all in with a draw, especially if theyre the one calling