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Old 11-11-2005, 10:22 PM
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Default Check Raising turn with straight and flush draw

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (10.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.70 BB

With not much of a read on any of these players, I'd like to know if my play on the turn was ok. My thinking was that I should build the pot with a open ended straight draw and flush draw. (I had CO on a pair of tens and button on pair of Aces, I expected both players to call the raise on turn.)
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Check Raising turn with straight and flush draw

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(I had CO on a pair of tens and button on pair of Aces,

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With reads like that, you should turn pro.

Seriously, fold pre-flop, bet out on the turn.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Check Raising turn with straight and flush draw

I don't understand why either of you want to put in more bets on the turn here.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Check Raising turn with straight and flush draw

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I don't understand why either of you want to put in more bets on the turn here.

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15 outs perhaps plus implied odds?
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Check Raising turn with straight and flush draw

15 outs makes us 2.1:1 to have the best hand by the river. So in the best possible case (they both call), we still lose a little bit of value on each bet that goes in. If one of them folds, we lose a decent amount of value with every bet that goes in on the turn.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:41 PM
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15 outs makes us 2.1:1 to have the best hand by the river. So in the best possible case (they both call), we still lose a little bit of value on each bet that goes in. If one of them folds, we lose a decent amount of value with every bet that goes in on the turn.

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How do you calculate that I'm losing value for raising on turn?
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