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Old 11-11-2005, 01:00 PM
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Default JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

in a full ring game you're dealt JJ in the bb. is it correct to raise this hand 100% of the time vs 3-4 limpers?
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

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in a full ring game you're dealt JJ in the bb. is it correct to raise this hand 100% of the time vs 3-4 limpers?

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It is not correct to do anything 100% of the time when you play poker. That said, with TT or JJ in the BB against specifically 3 or 4 limpers I usually check it, but if I know my opponents are playing all kinds of hands such as Q5o, or 74o then I will probably raise it. If I had no information, my default play would be to check it against specifically 3 or 4 limpers. Against 5 or more I am always raising, and against 2 or less I am always raising(please ignore the fact that i just contradicted my first sentence in this post)
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

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in a full ring game you're dealt JJ in the bb. is it correct to raise this hand 100% of the time vs 3-4 limpers?

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Yes. In fact, unless you know someone in early position is going to limp/reraise with AA/KK/QQ, it is incorrect to not do it.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

I think it's weak not to raise here. I would even raise 9s. When more limpers come in, I'd open to raise any pocket pair for set value.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

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in a full ring game you're dealt JJ in the bb. is it correct to raise this hand 100% of the time vs 3-4 limpers?

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ask bernie

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Old 11-11-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

Also see this thread for more info
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

Wow. That threads over 2 years old.

I briefly thought of this thread during a mid stakes thread about raising TT with 3 limpers.

linky

Another thread(s) to link to for a much better discussion, if you can find it, is the one with Feeney and Astroglide about AKo. There were 2 of them. Feeney explained it very well.

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Old 11-11-2005, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

its prob good im not a mod... id just lock thread and ban OP.
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

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its prob good im not a mod... id just lock thread and ban OP.

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yes because sb is the same as bb? also before i make a post i should pour through every post on every board just to be certain i don't make a similar post as someone else?

i specifically asked about 3-4 limpers in the bb because this is the exact amount of opponents a hand like JJ does the worst against. in the sb at least a raise gives you an opportunity to drive one player out.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: JJ from the bb, always raise a handful of limpers?

from sklansky's "poker gaming and life" page 79, titled 'call or raise?':

holdem: "8 players have called before the flop and you are in the blind. you should raise with 99 or AA but probably not with JJ or QQ. you raise with AA because of the strength of your hand and with 99 because you are getting 8-1 odds on your raise and you might flop a set. the problem with QQ or JJ is that it is much harder for these pairs to win by themselves if you give your hand away and double the pot size, especially in early position."
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