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Old 11-09-2005, 08:05 PM
ShortySaurus ShortySaurus is offline
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Default value bet gone wrong....river play ?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP ($590)
CO ($398)
Button ($532.90)
SB ($397.50)
BB ($374.95)
Hero ($2447.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $14, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Button calls $30.

Turn: ($94) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, Button calls $65.

River: ($224) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $325</font>, Hero ??

hows the line too?
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Old 11-09-2005, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

It's fine. Fold river.
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

I like check/call river. It gives them a chance to bluff and you lose about the same amount with check/call as with bet/fold if they have you beat.
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:00 AM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

How often do you think villain will bluff after flop raise, flop bet, and turn bet? You think this was a draw? The only draw I see as likely is T9 and it hit so it won't have a reason to bluff. I guess the lower straight draws are possibilities too, but it looks like, on this board, you'll make more by bet/folding.

Edit: I should say it hit it's ten.
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:17 AM
phil_ivey_fan phil_ivey_fan is offline
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP ($590)
CO ($398)
Button ($532.90)
SB ($397.50)
BB ($374.95)
Hero ($2447.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $14, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Button calls $30.

Turn: ($94) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, Button calls $65.

River: ($224) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $325</font>, Hero ??

hows the line too?

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villain stats and yours?
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:22 AM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

river bet is fine...
need to know something about this guy who raised... i think u should prob pay that off, but folding is ok as well... pretty close decision.
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:01 AM
psuasskicker psuasskicker is offline
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

i think u should prob pay that off

What hand can he raise on that river that doesn't beat Hero, other than a complete bluff?

I think calling is nothing other than bluff hunting unless your opponent is stupid enough to raise you with T9 there.

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Old 11-10-2005, 02:24 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

ive seen T9 here many timrs.
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

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ive seen T9 here many timrs.

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not at 2/4
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:25 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: value bet gone wrong....river play ?

also, 3.5:1.
folding QQ on this board getting 3.5:1 closing the action... not sure that can be automatic.
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