6max standard??

bottomset · #1 11-09-2005, 06:24 AM

first orbit at table no reads

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Preflop: bottomset is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, bottomset calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, MP raises, bottomset 3-bets

adsman · #2 11-09-2005, 06:29 AM

Overcard, nut-flush draw and a gutshot to a wheel. Gotta pump that. I assume that you won't take a free card though.

car ramrod · #3 11-09-2005, 10:06 AM

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I assume that you won't take a free card though.

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if available and needed, I would take the free card.

#4 11-09-2005, 06:50 AM

I usually raise A5s with 1-2 limpers from the button. Is this wrong? I'm just startin in 6-max so forgive my ignorance.

That being said I agree you should pump the pot on that flop!

adsman · #5 11-09-2005, 07:06 AM

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I usually raise A5s with 1-2 limpers from the button. Is this wrong? I'm just startin in 6-max so forgive my ignorance.

That being said I agree you should pump the pot on that flop!

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A lot of people when first starting 6max make the mistake of being too aggressive. With the limpers there's no need to raise here. Limp in and take a flop.

#6 11-09-2005, 07:18 AM

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A lot of people when first starting 6max make the mistake of being too aggressive. With the limpers there's no need to raise here. Limp in and take a flop.

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Makes sense to me thanks. Honestly, It felt a little awkward to me. I pulled this from the Wookie's Six Max Baby Steps thread and the starting hand chart therein. Sorry for the hijack!

Fryguy · #7 11-09-2005, 05:39 PM

QFT when I started 6-max I raised all sorts of random [censored]. It takes a few hundred hands to get the feel for it.

With that said, A8s or less is an EASY limp behind. A naked ace doesn't have much value multiway, you are playing the hand for the time you get flush-draws (and occasionally make the A win). You wouldn't raise 87s in this situation, A5s isn't really any better.

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I usually raise A5s with 1-2 limpers from the button. Is this wrong? I'm just startin in 6-max so forgive my ignorance.

That being said I agree you should pump the pot on that flop!

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A lot of people when first starting 6max make the mistake of being too aggressive. With the limpers there's no need to raise here. Limp in and take a flop.

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deception5 · #8 11-09-2005, 05:59 PM

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With that said, A8s or less is an EASY limp behind. A naked ace doesn't have much value multiway, you are playing the hand for the time you get flush-draws (and occasionally make the A win). You wouldn't raise 87s in this situation, A5s isn't really any better.

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It's all a matter of game conditions, image, etc. How tight the blinds are, how willing players are to fold when they miss the flop and whether it's 1 or 2 limpers are nearly as important as the actual cards.

jrz1972 · #9 11-09-2005, 09:13 AM

FWIW, I would normally raise this preflop as well. If the limpers are are good and aggressive I'll reconsider, but then again if the limpers were good they wouldn't have limped.

Oh yeah and definitely 3-bet the flop. I am taking a free card if offered.

DMBFan23 · #10 11-09-2005, 10:31 AM

there's a really good chance these limpers suck.

sometimes I raise preflop, sometimes I don't. you're suited which is nice, but you have some high card strength as well so your hand should do well whether you let the blinds in or not. if the blinds are very aggro and will 3-bet you a lot then I'd be more inclined to call.

if I 3-bet the flop and am called in both spots then I would take the free turn card.