End the Abortion Debate

[lehighguy]

We overturn Roe v Wade and institute nationwide (or statewide) plebiscite broken up by trimesters. Majority rules and the law goes into effect for 25-50 years (take your pick).

Likely results based on recent polls:
First Trimester: Legal
Second Trimester: Dunno, don't keep up on this stuff
Third Trimester: Illegal

The plebescite would be phrased something like this:

We the people believe that a fetus/child/whatever in the X trimester should be considered either a living human being and therefore is a citizen of the United States with all of the rights that entails.

[whiskeytown]

I have felt that since the legal defination of death is teh cessation of brain activity that life should start with the beginning of brain stem activity -

I think that gives people 30 days... we certainly have teh science now to determine when brain activity starts...

That would usually be enough time....but of course, that wouldn't make anyone happy on either side. But hey, why be consistant with our medical definitions of life when we can quote a verse from the old testament and pull a new definition out of our ass that differs from when we think someone is dead.

RB

[lehighguy]

I think people would be more satisfied if they got a chance to voice thier concerns and simply lost or didn't get all they wanted. There are millions of issues ranging from healthcare to taxation, but none poison our political debate the way abortion does.

[jj_frap]

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I think people would be more satisfied if they got a chance to voice thier concerns and simply lost or didn't get all they wanted. There are millions of issues ranging from healthcare to taxation, but none poison our political debate the way abortion does.

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What about the religious right and its collective penis envy of homosexuals?

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...collective penis envy of homosexuals...

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Cute. Never heard it before. Original?

[lehighguy]

You can't bring social change in the courts, you have to do it in the streets. You have to convince people your right, thus marginalizing the other side. It is the only legitamate and thus effective way of seeking social change.

Sorry if it's a lot of work.

[ACPlayer]

Thge die hards of the side that loses will continue to agitate, try to bring new plebiscites, try to change laws etc.

Better to just let them kill each other and let the fetus live on (if the mother chooses to let it, that is).

[FishNChips]

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I think people would be more satisfied if they got a chance to voice thier concerns and simply lost or didn't get all they wanted. There are millions of issues ranging from healthcare to taxation, but none poison our political debate the way abortion does.

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What about the religious right and its collective penis envy of homosexuals?

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[caretaker1]

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I think people would be more satisfied if they got a chance to voice thier concerns and simply lost or didn't get all they wanted. There are millions of issues ranging from healthcare to taxation, but none poison our political debate the way abortion does.

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Well put.

[mackthefork]

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I have felt that since the legal defination of death is teh cessation of brain activity that life should start with the beginning of brain stem activity -

I think that gives people 30 days... we certainly have teh science now to determine when brain activity starts...

That would usually be enough time....but of course, that wouldn't make anyone happy on either side. But hey, why be consistant with our medical definitions of life when we can quote a verse from the old testament and pull a new definition out of our ass that differs from when we think someone is dead.

RB

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Using this criteria I propose we abort half the users on this board.

Mack