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11-06-2005, 04:44 AM
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quickie: KQo with a dead queen
Hero has KQo in MP1. One EP limper. During the deal, the Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] was exposed.
Hero...? And just to get precise, does your answer change if Hero has AQo? AQs? 
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#2
11-06-2005, 05:36 AM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
.... emails partypoker support?
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#3
11-06-2005, 05:17 PM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
No, seriously. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
How much of the value of KQ comes from flopping a big pair? How much does this change when one of your pair outs is gone? How does this affect your decision of how to play KQ before the flop? What about AQ? It makes fewer straights than KQ, so the affect should be more profound. Are you still raising AQ, or are you now limping, or folding outright? Also, holy crap the Raiders just retook the lead with 1:45 to go.
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11-06-2005, 05:33 PM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
At least Oprah is on my side.
And hey look, CBS *just* cut over to the GB game, and the Packers are already losing.
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#6
11-06-2005, 05:45 PM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
Did the exposed card get burned, or is it in somebody's hand? Have you seen that guy act?
Well, you go from 28% to 23% to flop exactly a big pair (there's a little bit extra, too, as you might flop MORE than a pair). Beyond that, the chances of flopping any of your possible draws is unchanged. Add to that, if a queen does flop your hand will be well-hidden. Play it as you would normally, I say. And, I don't think it changes significantly if you're holding AQ instead of KQ.
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#7
11-06-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
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Did the exposed card get burned, or is it in somebody's hand? Have you seen that guy act? [/ QUOTE ] The Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] was dealt to the SB but exposed, and thus became the burn card. The SB has not acted yet.
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#8
11-06-2005, 06:19 PM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
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[ QUOTE ] Did the exposed card get burned, or is it in somebody's hand? Have you seen that guy act? [/ QUOTE ] The Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] was dealt to the SB but exposed, and thus became the burn card. The SB has not acted yet. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm. The reason I ask is, if it was flipped but stayed in the guy's hand (does this even happen, anywhere?) and he came out firing, I'd be much more likely to dump my KQ. AQ, I still think not.
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#9
11-06-2005, 06:29 PM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
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Hmmm. The reason I ask is, if it was flipped but stayed in the guy's hand (does this even happen, anywhere?) and he came out firing, I'd be much more likely to dump my KQ. AQ, I still think not. [/ QUOTE ] I have never seen a revealed card be allowed to remain in a player's hand. But if i the card flashed just to me or something *and* the opponent seemed to like his hand, then yes, KQ is looking like a big dog to AQ/QQ and it's probably time to get out.
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#10
11-06-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: quickie: KQo with a dead queen
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I have never seen a revealed card be allowed to remain in a player's hand. [/ QUOTE ] Nor I. I have, however, seen some crazy-ass rules in some places, so I by no means believe that I know all the possibilities.
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