Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Mid-, High-Stakes Pot- and No-Limit Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-05-2005, 06:39 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Under-full, too much action?

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking on these forums for quite a while, and I figured it was time to start contributing and posting some hands. This hand happened in a live 3/6 game; I'm wondering what you put both villains on, and if you call the river:

10-Handed Live 3/6, $500 max buy-in

Hero has a fairly tight image. I've never seen either villain before, but Villain 1 seems weak-tight, and hasn't played a hand in about an hour; Villain 2 is playing fairly LAG.

Villian 1 ($880) limps UTG, Villain 2 (covers) limps in LP, Hero ($1400) limps on Button with 44. 5 way to flop.

FLOP ($30): J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

All check to hero, hero bets $30, both villains call.

TURN ($120): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Both check, hero bets $100, both call.

RIVER: ($320): J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villain 1 moves all-in for about $750, Villain 2 calls. Hero ???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-05-2005, 07:40 AM
FatalError FatalError is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 139
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

one of them almost absolutely has a flush, the other has JUST a jack often enough to make this a call, i'd say you're about 50% to win here getting 2 and change to 1
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-06-2005, 06:18 AM
Lucky Lucky is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 81
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

Live is obviously different, but i'm getting to the point online where, if some weak tightie makes a big bet and I dont have the nuts, i muck it.

While I'll sometimes muck the worst hand, i dont think it's too -ev and its lower variance and positive emotional value.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-05-2005, 12:10 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

if villain 1's weak tight, i'll put him on J8. villain 2 i think has a flush. i think you're behind here often enough that you can find a fold.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-05-2005, 12:19 PM
fanmail fanmail is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 56
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

[ QUOTE ]
if villain 1's weak tight, i'll put him on J8. villain 2 i think has a flush. i think you're behind here often enough that you can find a fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Villain 1 is weak tight, why would he limp UTG w/J8?????
He either has a higher set/now boat, a flush(most likely) or AJ maybe. In my opinion, the pot is big enough to stick your money in on a little boat, barring any other reads.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-05-2005, 01:45 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

sorry. def read the hand wrong. thought villain 1 was SB and villain 2 was BB for some reason. im a retard. anyway, re-reading the post, i really can't put villain 1 on a hand. J8s that he decided to limp w/ maybe? either that or very poorly played higher set.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-05-2005, 12:22 PM
fanmail fanmail is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 56
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

Oh yeah, also, is it possible villain 1 could be using his weak tight image to make a huge bluff here?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-06-2005, 01:12 AM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 144
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

[ QUOTE ]
Oh yeah, also, is it possible villain 1 could be using his weak tight image to make a huge bluff here?

[/ QUOTE ]
O man, LOL.
thats awesome.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-06-2005, 06:13 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

Thanks for the responses everyone;

I called, and Villain 1 showed 77 for the strangley-played higher full house. I just wanted to see if anyone else could pick up on this... apparently not, so its ok. I figured a flush or trip J's. Villain 2 showed the nut flush. -OmegA
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-06-2005, 06:54 AM
smurfitup smurfitup is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 20/40... until school starts :(
Posts: 47
Default Re: Under-full, too much action?

wow, the guy w/ the 7s played that hand so atrociously.. wow...
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.