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Old 11-03-2005, 08:01 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

Can one of you guys help give me an example of a good time to do this? I can never pinpoint a good time to use this play.
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:06 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

youve got to be kidding me.
this is like "lock thread, ban guy" worthy man... come on.
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:15 PM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

No I'm not kidding. There's some very basic things about NL I've kinda winged on my way up to the 1k's. This is one of them. Pot and implied odds and equity are others. But that's for another time.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

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No I'm not kidding. There's some very basic things about NL I've kinda winged on my way up to the 1k's. This is one of them. Pot and implied odds and equity are others. But that's for another time.

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You don't understand pot and implied odds? Seriously?
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

am i the only one that has played with "HEK" before?

he plays by feel
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

dick.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:51 AM
HoldEmKillah HoldEmKillah is offline
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

Of course I do. I'm not an idiot. I meant that I can't figure out pot odds vs $ odds to get EV answers on the fly. Just can't do it. I know what my odds to draw are. If the pot is offering me about that and I feel I'll get paid when I hit then I'll call. If not I fold. I can't do equity equations and can't figure out how much $ I need to make this call +EV and all that like most of you other brainiacs can. Yah Kagame is right. I do play by feel alot. This whole post sounds awful but I'm tired and going to bed so I'm posting it anyway.

G'night.
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

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Of course I do. I'm not an idiot. I meant that I can't figure out pot odds vs $ odds to get EV answers on the fly. Just can't do it. I know what my odds to draw are. If the pot is offering me about that and I feel I'll get paid when I hit then I'll call. If not I fold. I can't do equity equations and can't figure out how much $ I need to make this call +EV and all that like most of you other brainiacs can. Yah Kagame is right. I do play by feel alot. This whole post sounds awful but I'm tired and going to bed so I'm posting it anyway.

G'night.

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Sorry, I wasn't trying to offend you. I don't do EV calculations on the spot either(mostly because I know many situations aren't close enough to warrant them). I was just surprised that you included pot and implied odds in the list of things you hadn't gotten to figuring out yet, as you equated with them when to use the stop and go. As for a stop and go, I think it's a perfectly reasonable line with hands of all strengths, and a good way to stop your opponent from checking behind when you want him to call or fold to your turn bet.
-James
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

just saying theres more to NL than the exact odds

he does fine
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Check/calling the flop then leading the turn unimproved

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Can one of you guys help give me an example of a good time to do this? I can never pinpoint a good time to use this play.

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I do this just about never.
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