5/10 KK Hand OOP monotone board

Seether · #1 10-30-2005, 11:00 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($958.50)
Button ($1183.25)
SB ($427)
Hero ($2165.24)
UTG ($298.50)
MP ($1074)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, MP raises to $35, 1 fold, Button calls $35, 1 fold, Hero raises to $110, MP calls $85, Button calls $85.

Flop: ($365) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $200, MP calls $200, Button calls $1063.25 (All-In), Hero ?

#2 10-30-2005, 11:01 PM

Hero bets all his chips.

Seether · #3 10-31-2005, 01:38 AM

easy push then?

#4 10-31-2005, 01:54 AM

You have lots of outs against a set and are ahead of AsQx hands. Rarely are you drawing dead here so im just sticking it in.

creedofhubris · #5 10-31-2005, 02:09 AM

If you pot the flop, then the hand plays itself (it all goes in by the turn.)

Chaostracize · #6 10-31-2005, 02:36 AM

Reraise closer to 130-150 pf because you're going to be oop. Bet closer to pot on flop, I like a simple, easy bet of 300. Hand becomes a lot easier to play, too, but that's not really the point. You're not giving the As a very good reason to fold, because you're giving some pretty nice implied odds. 300 makes it much more incorrect to play.

Anyway, barring reads, this is a pretty standard call. It looks like the cold caller could have the As and the pusher might have a set, so I suppose this could be a fold. Yeah, reads would be nice here. Just bet more next time so you don't have to rely on reads. Reads suck. The end.

fuego527 · #7 10-31-2005, 04:35 AM

I disagree with most of what has been said here. To me it looks like MP has [As Ah] [As Qd] [Js Ts/8s]. Basically, he doesn't have any particular reason to worry about button and is either waiting for a blank turn to push over your anticipated bet with his flush or is drawing to the nuts. The button, who is representing SC/PP by his call/call preflop, now pushes over the top of a bet and a call in a multiway reraised pot?? It looks like a set or made (probably non-nut) flush to me.

I don't really see what hands you are truly ahead of here. Pair+flush is basically even, unless its AA then you are in trouble. If you are against made flush and the As is in the hand you are in serious trouble. If you are against set you are slightly behind, unless the As is in other person's hand, then you are way behind.

I say you gotta fold.

kagame · #8 10-31-2005, 05:49 AM

no way button was AA here

fuego527 · #9 10-31-2005, 02:50 PM

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no way button was AA here

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Who said he did?

Seether · #10 10-31-2005, 06:30 AM

Thanks for the input guys. I folded, and MP called. Button had AQ no spade and MP had JJ with a spade. I was wondering if i thought i should have called because it would have been correct or if it was results orientated thinking. In my mind all I could think about was being up against AA and A of spades. I thought button could have been semibluffing ace of spades, and that mp either had a made flush or set with the flop cold call.