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Old 10-27-2005, 11:44 PM
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Default Help with Pokerroom $2RB Final Table hand

There are 6 players left and I am 4th in chips with 400K after posting the BB. Blinds are 60K/30K.

Big stack is 1.2 million. 2 other stacks are around 850K and 2 others around 300K. Table has had alot of action. 4 players have busted in the last 15 minutes.

Everyone folds to the button who just calls. He has 850K and has been playing very loose. I am dealt 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB.

SB folds and I check. There is 150K in the pot.

Flop comes 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Action is to me. What should i have done in this spot?
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: Help with Pokerroom $2RB Final Table hand

you have a double gut shot and middle pair, no kicker, and the slim possibility of a medium flush if you get runner-runner [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. You could bet about 75k to see where you're at or check-fold or check-raise. Given the propensity of smaller stacks to bust out fairly quickly and that you're not the shortest stack, I'd recommend check-folding.
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:56 AM
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You could bet about 75k to see where you're at or check-fold or check-raise.

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The BB is 60K. The original poster put the BB beofore the SB in the their post.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:08 AM
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you have a double gut shot

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Not true.. he doesn't even have a single gutshot. You need runner-runner for either a straight or a flush.
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Old 10-28-2005, 11:49 AM
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Thanks for the replies.

I shoved and was releived when he called my allin with the flush draw. I was a %55 favorite to win the hand when the money went in, while he was only getting close to even money (he had to call 400K to win 550K).

Of course I had no clue that he was on the flush draw so it was just dumb luck that it turned out that way. Since villian could have such a wide range of hands in that spot I'm wondering if pushing here is generally +EV. And I dont know what kind of analysis I should do to find out.

I entered my hand into pokerstove and it gave me 66% equity vs a random hand (trust me villian has a WIDE range here).

Is that the number I'm looking for or should I add folding equity or anything else I'm missing from the equation?
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:19 PM
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I entered my hand into pokerstove and it gave me 66% equity vs a random hand (trust me villian has a WIDE range here).

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Villain didn't fold preflop. He doesn't have a random hand.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:30 PM
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Villain didn't fold preflop. He doesn't have a random hand.

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You're not very familiar with Pokerroom villains, are you? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-28-2005, 03:45 PM
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Villain didn't fold preflop. He doesn't have a random hand.

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I substituted random hand to "any suited/broadway/pair" and pokerstove gives me 64% equity. Good push? I dont know exactly what numbers to trust here.
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:55 AM
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You should move all in and take a shot at winning this tournament. You have very few chips and you have a pair which is probably good at this point. You could have moved all in preflop (dependent on pay structure which you don't mention) if you think he would fold without a good hand.
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Old 10-28-2005, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Help with Pokerroom $2RB Final Table hand

i think this is more read dependent than anything here. has this guy been the one busting out the smaller stacks at the tables?

pushing here has a HUGE bluff element to it since he will call and either have you crushed or have tons of outs against your middle pair. even if he decides to get frisky with 10,7, you don't mind it, but you can't really be excited about it.

I think the range against which to calculate your equity is the range of hands you think he would call with and then determine if those hands are in his limping range (sounds like they probably would be).

That said, i do like pushing here since we do have a little something to fall back on should he call and we need some chips. I'd suspect, though, that we're no better than even money against the range of hands he'd have if he calls.
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