27s...second guessing.

pooh74 · #1 10-27-2005, 11:09 PM

Villain is famously known Multitabler and uber tight early and utter pushbot late. On loose setting, this call is +.8 but i think that might be too conservative. What do you guys do here? absent this stark read I never make this call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP (t3940)
CO (t980)
Button (t4065)
SB (t2005)
Hero (t1305)
UTG (t1205)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1205</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero...

adanthar · #2 10-27-2005, 11:16 PM

He is raising UTG, this has nothing (OK, little) to do with pushbotting.

microbet · #3 10-27-2005, 11:22 PM

What adanthar said. Easy call if he were SB. Possible call from button or even CO, but A9 should be a clear dog to his range from UTG.

pooh74 · #4 10-27-2005, 11:34 PM

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What adanthar said. Easy call if he were SB. Possible call from button or even CO, but A9 should be a clear dog to his range from UTG.

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I have played about 100 games with her and I know she gets frisky when she is about to lose her FE...I have her on a very wide range here (relative to a standard push from UTG)

But FWIW, I think you guys are probably right and the fact is, it was *I* who was feeling frisky.

Thx for the feedback.

microbet · #5 10-27-2005, 11:39 PM

If you know in particular this player has a very wide range in this spot, it's different.

I haven't played near 100 against any one opponent and I can see how you can get some very specific reads after a while. It's very cool.

bluefeet · #6 10-28-2005, 05:20 PM

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I have played about 100 games with her and I know she gets frisky when she is about to lose her FE

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Let me guess: ImSoLxxxx ? A solid multi-table'r for sure

I've played a ton w/ this person as well. Rightfully so adjusting my own calling range (with a handful of successful "spite" looking calls), when during these turbos folks get <6bb's WELL before the "bubble". But from UTG, I think it would be prudent to give him/her just a tad more credit (not much). More importantly, with the depth at the table, you should have an opportunity or two yourself to stay ahead of the blinds.

But with this shared read, I will give you "it's a lot closer than it looks" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

pooh74 · #7 10-28-2005, 05:31 PM

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Let me guess: ImSoLxxxx ? A solid multi-table'r for sure

I've played a ton w/ this person as well. Rightfully so adjusting my own calling range (with a handful of successful "spite" looking calls), when during these turbos folks get <6bb's WELL before the "bubble". But from UTG, I think it would be prudent to give him/her just a tad more credit (not much). More importantly, with the depth at the table, you should have an opportunity or two yourself to stay ahead of the blinds.

But with this shared read, I will give you "it's a lot closer than it looks" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Lol...actually I wouldnt call IMsoLxxxx there...Imso does a little more than pushbot, seems more involved and I would respect his UTG raise more (not that I dont respect THIS player too, just dont respect their pushes as much, nor should they mine [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])...Ill pm you the name and in case the player is a member here. Maybe coincidence but I dont have more games logged with anyone else in my database.

bluefeet · #8 10-28-2005, 05:47 PM

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Let me guess: ImSoLxxxx ? A solid multi-table'r for sure

I've played a ton w/ this person as well. Rightfully so adjusting my own calling range (with a handful of successful "spite" looking calls), when during these turbos folks get <6bb's WELL before the "bubble". But from UTG, I think it would be prudent to give him/her just a tad more credit (not much). More importantly, with the depth at the table, you should have an opportunity or two yourself to stay ahead of the blinds.

But with this shared read, I will give you "it's a lot closer than it looks" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Lol...actually I wouldnt call IMsoLxxxx there...Imso does a little more than pushbot, seems more involved and I would respect his UTG raise more (not that I dont respect THIS player too, just dont respect their pushes as much, nor should they mine [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])...Ill pm you the name and in case the player is a member here. Maybe coincidence but I dont have more games logged with anyone else in my database.

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lol, oops [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

i knew that name sounded familiar when i typed it. i remembered the other on the way to pick up the kid [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

(it is a similar type of name)

jeffraider · #9 10-27-2005, 11:41 PM

If that's me UTG your A9 is a 70/30 dog at best.

pooh74 · #10 10-28-2005, 12:00 AM

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If that's me UTG your A9 is a 70/30 dog at best.

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with that stack? about to be 700 at a stars tourney? you should open that up a bit...

she had 66, and I actually thought it couldve been much worse a hand because ive seen her raise push here...but anyway, thats why I posted it. I would normally autofold this.