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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter
BB (t980) UTG (t3155) MP1 (t350) MP2 (t1035) CO (t2170) Hero (t835) SB (t1475) Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t275</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t175. Flop: (t625) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t50</font>, Hero calls t50. Turn: (t725) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t325</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?</font> Kind of a weird hand. Comments on all streets appreciated. Thoughts to follow. No real reads. Starting to 8-table, so reads are a little harder to come by. |
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I'm either folding or raising that flop. I need more information.
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I want to say right now that I absolutely hate a flop raise. Doesn't mean I'm right, but man I don't like it.
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I want to say right now that I absolutely hate a flop raise. Doesn't mean I'm right, but man I don't like it. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I think the flop raise is the cheapest way to see if he has an ace or not. By just calling, you almost announce to him that you don't have an ace. His turn bet could mean a wide variety of things. And it is now very expensive to see if he's got that ace. |
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By just calling, you almost announce to him that you don't have an ace.
This is exactly why you just call with an ace. You don't have enough $$$ behind to raise for information with KK here. If you raise, it should be all-in (but raising here is pointless IMO). He will fold something like 99 and call with AJ so raising does nothing for you. If you are going to put the $$$ in, let him do the betting since these bets will often times be small pocket pairs that hope you fold a larger under pocket. The same is true for a hand like AK. The money is going in no matter how you play it if he has an ace, but a raise on the flop will just make him fold TT or whatever (granted some people will still call an all-in but you don't want to risk it). Just call and let him throw his money away with those hands. Brad |
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The flop bet of 50 into 600 is a little weakish, I may have raised. If he calls I proceed w/ caution, if he re-raises I let it go. Boy, doesn't it seem that the Ace comes every time when you have Kings.
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I'd just push preflop to be honest. You'll be called loads of times by stuff you have smashed. Especially by a t2170 stack.
And if not, well, I'll take the t175 in the pot, and thanks very much for coming. It is after all over 20% of your stack. |
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I'd just push preflop to be honest. You'll be called loads of times by stuff you have smashed. Especially by a t2170 stack. And if not, well, I'll take the t175 in the pot, and thanks very much for coming. It is after all over 20% of your stack. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe if the villian's original raise had been 3xBB then yea, push. But I don't like pushing after his minraisee. I don't think it's extracting maximum value. Although I admit 275 is a bit weak. Something like 350-400 is good. |
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Normally people who have t2170 by level 3 are donks. (Not always, I know, but it tends to be one LAG that's got lucky) if this is the case, what does a push by you register as in his mind?
"AK or AQ, I have AK/small pair, I call" That's the main reason I'd do it, because of the guy's stack size. Obviously if he's proven to be a sensible player who's acquired his chips normally, then ok, a raise to 350 or whatever would be better. Just understand that raising that much means you're putting the rest in on the flop/turn even if an Ace comes. |
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I'd just push preflop to be honest. You'll be called loads of times by stuff you have smashed. Especially by a t2170 stack. And if not, well, I'll take the t175 in the pot, and thanks very much for coming. It is after all over 20% of your stack. [/ QUOTE ] |
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