Mild Blind Battle...I get there on the river.

#1 10-25-2005, 11:10 PM

Villain is 30/18/1.5

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

imported_leader · #2 10-25-2005, 11:31 PM

I'd just fold the flop. River cap is good. No way he plays KQ this way.

#3 10-26-2005, 01:10 AM

The intent of the raise was to take a free turn if he has a weak ace or some PP. If he had broadways, there's also some fold equity.

imported_leader · #4 10-26-2005, 01:18 AM

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The intent of the raise was to take a free turn if he has a weak ace or some PP. If he had broadways, there's also some fold equity.

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I don't think this guy is passive enough for that, and this is a blind on blind situation so he'll be even less passive. The free card play works best when you can be pretty sure your going to get it. Otherwise it's just a waste of money. Also if he reads you as an aggressive player, you won't have much fold equity because he'll assume you would have RR pre-flop with Ax.

#5 10-26-2005, 01:29 AM

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The intent of the raise was to take a free turn if he has a weak ace or some PP. If he had broadways, there's also some fold equity.

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I don't think this guy is passive enough for that, and this is a blind on blind situation so he'll be even less passive. The free card play works best when you can be pretty sure your going to get it. Otherwise it's just a waste of money. Also if he reads you as an aggressive player, you won't have much fold equity because he'll assume you would have RR pre-flop with Ax.

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I don't generally reraise Ax pre-flop, but he doesn't know that, so I see your point.

ArturiusX · #6 10-26-2005, 12:21 AM

Yeah, fold the flop, even if it is a blind battle.

Peel isn't bad either. Raising is my least prefered.

RunDownHouse · #7 10-26-2005, 12:05 PM

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Peel isn't bad either.

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Why on earth would a peel ever be good here?

The only time I could see it is if my opponent was observant, had been at the table for a while, and I had been doing a lot of waiting-until-the-turn with very strong hands and folding the flop otherwise. That's a pretty specific situation.

me454555 · #8 10-26-2005, 12:27 AM

My standard line would be to fold the flop but I think you played it fine. If Sb is reasonably aggresive the flop raise a good time to try to get him to lay down a better hand lik Kx or Qx. I fold the turn if that J doesn't hit though.

#9 10-26-2005, 01:11 AM

Yes, obviously the double gutter got me to call the turn.

KDawgCometh · #10 10-26-2005, 12:33 AM

how clean do you really think the 8 and 9 outs are after all of the flop action and him leading the turn when the jack falls. His ag factor isn't high enough for me to consider seeing the river as I don't think that we're gonna make up enough BBs there to justify the turn peel