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Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
Over previous hour villian seems like pretty solid player. Has usually had goods when made a big move, but has been caught bluffing on one occasion.
Both of us have about 1200 in front of us PF Villian opens to 20 UTG+1 Hero in MP with TT raises to 60, villian calls F: 924 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s Villian bets 50, hero raises to 120, villian calls T: 7 non heart Villian checks, hero bets 200, villian calls after some thought R: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (putting 3 hearts out) Villian quickly bets 160, hero calls Did ok? Too much? Can/can't call that river?--felt suspicious. |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
Raise more on flop.
Bet closer to pot on turn. River... that's a real ugly card... but your pot odds are so good, I don't know if I can fold. |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
So I guess you think I underplayed it. Ok.
Don't read this as result-related, but should those calls make me think I'm already beat? Thanks for the feedback, hopefully I'll get some more responses and I'll shoot out the results. |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
The problem with your bets/raises is that they define your hand fairly well without defining Villian's hand at all and you're giving villian great odds to try to draw out on you.
There aren't a lot of worse hands that can really call you down here, so your bets and raises should be to protect against the draw. Against an aggressive player, I might gamble and check the turn both for pot control and to pick off a river bluff, but only if I had made a potish raise on the flop. [ QUOTE ] Don't read this as result-related, but should those calls make me think I'm already beat? [/ QUOTE ] Every draw is calling you down with the odds you're laying. |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
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Can/can't call that river?--felt suspicious. [/ QUOTE ] "Must" call the river. |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
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[ QUOTE ] Can/can't call that river?--felt suspicious. [/ QUOTE ] "Must" call the river. [/ QUOTE ] "MUST" CAll, there are at least $920 , you need to put $160 : $920 ~1:6 odd. if he bet $400 or more, I think you should fold... for his weak bet at river, I am sure that he would like to see the cheap shown down... |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
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villian seems like pretty solid player [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Villian opens to 20 UTG+1 [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hero in MP with TT raises to 60 [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
Does that mean I'm stupid for not interpreting his play as a big hand pf?
The size of the raise was weird. I interpreted it as some kind of 'mix it up' raise or a monster. I expected him to rr if he had a monster being out of position. |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
What's the blind structure - is BB $5 - is his raise 4x bb? That's what I read it as and assumed $20 would be a standard open - So I was pointing out that when a solid player makes a standard raise utg + 1 I would generally not be reraising w TT.
Given the action throughout the hand, doesn't he have JJ or QQ here a lot? If you're trying to rep AA, then that's OK I guess, but that wasn't the impression I got. |
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Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
Although the bb is $5 the game is usually loose and astandard raise is a bit higher--around 30 to 35 if you want most to fold.
You hit it spot on though--he had KK and I shouldn't have rr. He thought I had aces is why he played it slow, and he was trying to move me off "my aces" with the river bluff. I wasn't trying to rep aces, but his comment and of course the showdown when I saw it made me think I overplayed. I guess this line (with Jim's modification of closer to pot sized bets to outprice draws) would have been ok if if our seats were shifted 4 seats back?--He opens MP/late MP and I play this from CO/button? Thanks for the feedback all. Greg |
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