Always confusing...

kurto · #1 10-24-2005, 02:10 AM

Party $50NL
Hero is in SB with $70. Villain in LP just joined the table and has full stack.

4 limpers to Hero who has KK

Hero raises it to $8.

2 callers.

FLOP KQ9 all spades

Hero bets 2/3 pot.
1 fold. Late position player quickly calls and I feel sick.

Plan for the rest of the hand?

#2 10-24-2005, 02:15 AM

at 50NL the only hands that call massive pf raises (8$) are pp's and AK. At worst he has AK, with A of spades.I say push a non spade turn.

edit: or AA, with one spade.

kurto · #3 10-24-2005, 02:18 AM

[ QUOTE ]
at 50NL the only hands that call massive pf raises (8$) are pp's and AK. At worst he has AK, with A of spades.I say push a non spade turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

You must be playing different tables then me, lol. I've seen people call 3 bets with 56os and A10. I don't really see the players being that much better then the $25 tables.

At the $100, I tend to agree.

stealyourface · #4 10-24-2005, 02:17 AM

1. I don't like your 8 dollar raise preflop, it tells people exactly what you have.

2. I would 2/3 pot it again on the turn if it is not a spade.

#5 10-24-2005, 02:33 AM

Bet the [censored] out of a non-spade turn

kurto · #6 10-24-2005, 02:48 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Bet the [censored] out of a non-spade turn

[/ QUOTE ]

That's what I did. The turn was a non spade rag. I bet 2/3 the pot. He called with no hesitation.

The river was another non spade rag. I bet again.

When he called the turn again, I was thinking 'uh oh'. I was thinking my hand range was fairly defined, and he probably knew I didn't have the flush.... But I was having trouble putting him on the flush because it seemed to unlikely for someone to be calling 8xbb with Axs (since the K and Q are out). And, he never reraised me....

I don't mean to be results oriented.... needless to say I lost the hand. (I think everyone can guess one of the two hands he had that beat me.) I just feel a little stupid since... When I bet the river, what is he realistically calling with that I beat? When he called, I felt like an idiot.

#7 10-24-2005, 02:54 AM

Well if he calls the turn and the river bricks, you have the option of check-calling river if you think he can bluff a missed draw

DrPublo · #8 10-24-2005, 02:38 AM

Did you really raise to 16x the BB preflop?

The Doc

kurto · #9 10-24-2005, 02:41 AM

Actually, I think I did my math wrong. lol. I raised it 8xbb.

orange · #10 10-24-2005, 02:41 AM

Spike a 9 on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

I would just blast the hell out of a non- [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn.