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KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
I SUCK AT INDENTIFYING CHECK/CALL or BET/FOLD situations. Now of course Betfolding costs the same but loses a showdown. Check call can induce a bluff and also gets a showdown....
But deciding what i need to apply at showdowns is tough concept for me to learn. Maybe its not a thing you learn, and very situation specific i assume but surely theres some general "principles" you could dicuss if you were to write a book for example? I have to review river betting in SSH later. Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, Button calls, BB calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls. River: (8.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, Hero....? BUTTON IS: 42/5.5/2 BB IS: 62/10/1.3 Discussion on this hand, Aswell as links/Discussion on when to value bet Vs check calling will be great |
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
Im thinking bet/fold because it seems that one of them has at least a king, which you can beat. They would check if you checked to them though. Even though most of the time with two opponents one of them will have an ace.
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
I'm checking and considering folding depending on the action.
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
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I'm checking and considering folding depending on the action. [/ QUOTE ] Same here. If button bets and BB just calls, I call. If BB check raises then I am out. Stats on villians generally indicate they are any Ace players and I dont think you have to worry about a Jack in either hand as I would like to think if they had a Jack they wouldve popped you earlier. |
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
I would also add that the nice thing here is that the villians can't put us in a tough position here. We can either call one or fold when it's 2 to us. It can never be the case that we'd call one and have it raised behind us.
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
Hmm fair enough,
I bet out(reluctantly) and was raised, so folded. flipped over an ace. |
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
I check-call, particularly when you intend to call a bet anyway. I think only a better hand calls a bet (trips, low straight) or raises you here (nut straight, boat), and you may save a bet on the river when a scared J or the 9 checks behind on the river. You also may be able to pick off a bluff from a weak king. I doubt this is a place for a value bet.
There's a good section on river play in TOP, it's worth reading. |
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
a 9 or J will call for sure, but might check as well because of the coordinated board.
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
(grunching)
I keep changing my mind. Check/call. You have a hand with lots of showdown value. You will get raised by the straight, and will fold any player who doesn't have a K,Q or A, so why bother. Maybe small pairs will call, but they may bet if you check, esp button. |
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Re: KQ - bet fold or check call situation?
Why'd you leave out check/fold? Cuz dat's wut ah'm tinkin', heah!
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