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Old 10-21-2005, 02:59 PM
ANY2CARDZ ANY2CARDZ is offline
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Default 30-60 k-10c whats your thoughts on pre-flop play

This is not a hand I played but Im not convinced that this raise is correct against 3 limpers. Is this standard?


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ischan limps in mp3 64/9/1.3, stevejpa calls, JHLEE111 calls in cutoff, sb folds, Hero raises in BB with k-10c.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:20 PM
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This is actually easily solved as a mathematical formula. You get their range of hands, and contrast K10c with them in terms of equity, subtracting a little perhaps from being out of position, but you can add a little since you'll out play them post flop (if this is true). So, the question to you is, what are these opponents range of hands, and how does K10s compare to them.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:26 PM
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I would not raise this hand preflop. I wouldn't even consider it.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:10 AM
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I wouldn't even consider it.


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yea...thats a problem.

Barron
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:30 PM
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It's not right or wrong. It just is. It's just making a big pot so if you flop nice people might chase. If your opponents would chase anyway, it's probably not necessary. Three limpers, I'd say it's borderline. 6 or 7 limpers, I'd probably jack it up and build a fat pot since it plays well multiway and just for variation.

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Old 10-21-2005, 04:51 PM
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whoever played this hand must be a total retard
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:11 PM
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whoever played this hand must be a total retard

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You really think it's THAT bad? Definitely not SOP, but I don't think raising KTs from the BB after 3 limpers makes you a "total retard."

That said, I've personally never made this raise in an online game.

- Jags
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: 30-60 k-10c whats your thoughts on pre-flop play

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whoever played this hand must be a total retard

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You really think it's THAT bad? Definitely not SOP, but I don't think raising KTs from the BB after 3 limpers makes you a "total retard."

That said, I've personally never made this raise in an online game.

- Jags

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I would guess that TstoneMbd played the hand......
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Old 10-22-2005, 05:08 AM
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I would guess that TstoneMbd played the hand......

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=)

also, i think the preflop raise is very easy. id be interested to hear others thoughts on why they dont like it if they have any.
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Old 10-22-2005, 09:03 AM
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I would guess that TstoneMbd played the hand......

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=)

also, i think the preflop raise is very easy. id be interested to hear others thoughts on why they dont like it if they have any.

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the addendum to the raise imo is how far you go/well you play/ margain hands vs. 3 players OOP. if you aren't comfortable with that, then raising for equity value based on statistics may be -ev.

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