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Old 10-19-2005, 03:56 AM
Chaos_ult Chaos_ult is offline
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Default AK flop raise

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, MP calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks.

Is this standard against a loose calling station?

Let me hear your thoughts.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

deleted cause I apparently can't read 6-max
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

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you have to fold the river UI obviously

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That would be a bad idea against this player.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

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you have to fold the river UI obviously

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That would be a bad idea against this player.

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you're absolutely right

I thought this was 10-handed

you have to call this river fo sho

edit: this depends on how passive this player is - if quite passive I don't call a river bet, because they're definitely not betting the flop with a hand that we beat
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

Bet the turn and check behind on the river. It costs the same, and we fold a pp (maybe a 9) some of the time.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

Doubt I make him fold anything. He's been calling down with king high, etc.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

yeah betting this turn against a calling station is -EV
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

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Bet the turn and check behind on the river. It costs the same, and we fold a pp (maybe a 9) some of the time.

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I don't know if the trade off of quoting a good post is worth the time spent looking at that avatar. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Don't raise the flop and check the turn. Either call the flop or bet the turn.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: AK flop raise

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Don't raise the flop and check the turn. Either call the flop or bet the turn.

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How can this be better against a calling station?

He's been calling down with king high, bottom pair

The flop raise knocks out drawing hands, allows me to isolate a terrible player.

I'm just confused..
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:04 AM
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Don't raise the flop and check the turn. Either call the flop or bet the turn.

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How can this be better against a calling station?

He's been calling down with king high, bottom pair

The flop raise knocks out drawing hands, allows me to isolate a terrible player.

I'm just confused..

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You have two overcards but you have no backdoor draws and you have a weak opponent betting into you when you showed strength preflop. You also have a player to act behind you who cold-called preflop and you haven't given us a read on him.
Your hand is a weak draw, (and you could be reverse dominated.) Call and see what the turn brings.
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