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Old 10-18-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default QQ(kind of strange line)

I kind of thought. Meh I am going to extract the maximum vs this guy. Is it good to wait until the river to pop it? He was 36/8/2.5 so a bit LAG.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:50 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: QQ(kind of strange line)

Keepitsimple, 3-bet the flop or c/r the turn.
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:04 PM
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I think I am too nice to him if I show full strenght on the flop. I could have CRd the turn though. Why do I do that btw instead of waiting to the river? Its not like he is drawing to something except for A or K. What about calling the turn and donkbet river?
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:06 PM
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I'm always a fan of getting a c/r in on the turn here. There are a lot of cards that will kill your action or make you afraid to c/r. I think that any hand that fold to your turn c/r is unlikely to bet the river as well.
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:15 PM
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Imo there arent many cards that will kill my action. The only cards that would do that is an A or K. This board is imo virtually drawless. I didnt put villain on AA,KK,AK since he didnt cap preflop so I think we are pretty good here. With that said I am beginning to lean towards a CR on the turn anyhow. I wouldnt want an A or K to fall on the river since there is a good possibility for KQ,AQ,AJ and such hands.
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: QQ(kind of strange line)

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Its not like he is drawing to something except for A or K.

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You actually have no idea what he's drawing to. What you DO know is that there are only 2 cards out of 46 that make YOUR hand better. Any of the other 44 could make his hand better, so, sure, wait until you can make him make a mistake by calling your raise, but then get it in there.
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: QQ(kind of strange line)

given read and drawless nature of the board: well played.

a LAG isn't checking behind top pair here and hopes to out bluff you on the river. a more "conservative" player: c/r the turn.
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:02 PM
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Yea I thought so too and he 3-bet me. Do I lay it down?
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:08 PM
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bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn is the juice.
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:20 PM
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bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn is the juice.

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This is a fun line to bust out. If there's a lot of action and frequent turn raises then I like it a lot. However, it tends to freeze up a lot of even fairly lagtstic players. I want to know that Villain is capable of putting in multiple bets with TP or worse or that he's a thinking player in a situation where we appear likely to be putting out a probing bet and/or trying to prevent a free card.
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