shut down because of the greed

Last Saturday, after the skin thing with Party, I was able to hook up with some other affiliates with some very reputable people. These were not rakeback people, but they saw the potential of getting us all under control and registering several thousand players and decided to work on putting something together.

After much time spent on getting a program set up, they registered some affiliates and those affiliates began to register players. All was going along fine until some rules were broken. This affiliate had us all agree not to post to any forums, not to send unsolicited emails, to remove rakeback banners, and some other things, which most of us did. Unfortunately, some didn't.

Some affiliates used their deal with them to try and get leverage with Party to make their own deal, others continued to post in here, others did worse.

After awhile, someone came in here to try and talk some sense into us. We are told that if we just took down our banners, stopped discussing rakeback at Party, and just stepped back for a while, everything should be ok. Over and over this person came in here and said why we need to do this, what effect things might have on Party, and explained over and over again. His credibility was put in question, people in here continued to do all the wrong things, and he left in frustration. Now, there is no rakeback, rewards, incentives, or anything else at Party, and you all are blaming Party, when it is you. The rakeback players make up such a small percentage compared to the BS/profit ratio, that they just decided it was easier to just pull the plug.

I would suggest that if you ever want to offer rewards of any kind on Party, you just stop posting anything about them at all.

APA

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[Exsubmariner]

Yeah, sure troll.

[palman]

Yeah there's rakeback, incentives, and the sort from Party. It's called the VIP rewards program. I'll get my money the 1st of the month directly from Party.

Now there aren't people who get rich by doing nothing. Not that sad in my book.

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Yeah there's rakeback, incentives, and the sort from Party. It's called the VIP rewards program. I'll get my money the 1st of the month directly from Party.


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Lol. The best players will get around 15%, but most will get almost nothing.

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Now there aren't people who get rich by doing nothing. Not that sad in my book.

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Why the hatred? You would rather get less from party than from an affiliate. Nice logic. Bet your an awesome poker player.

APA

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Now there aren't people who get rich by doing nothing. Not that sad in my book.



Why the hatred? You would rather get less from party than from an affiliate. Nice logic. Bet your an awesome poker player.

APA

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plus, i love this misnomer, that its money for doing nothing. if so, you really need to start doing this, because money for nothing, damn, why would you play poker?????

[palman]

I lose about a grand a month as a result of the switch, and I play for a living. Its not equivalent to 15%, closer to about 22.5%. The edit button is available if you want to edit the part where you said "there are no incentives of any kind on Party Poker."

My affiliate is my best friend in poker. Actually I know quite a few affiliates. The two I know best are both losing a good 10k profit/month easily. However, none of them are stupid enough to believe that congregating on 2+2 and making desperate pleas on 2+2 would actually change anything. I suppose that's why they weren't included in your band of merry men.

Still, its not a sad tale of hard working individuals getting screwed by the man. It's a bunch of people, who spent a combined eight minutes of time designing their website, and months of deliberation to come up with awful names like RaketheRake, losing money for doing absolutely nothing that obviously wasn't going to last forever.

If you think I'm sweating losing my 30% rakeback deal "forever" apparantly you think that the online poker industry will magically defy all odds and be the only industry in the history of the world that has never had to lower prices (rake) due to competition. It's an inconvinence for a short period of time. There's no need to make melodramatic posts.

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Still, its not a sad tale of hard working individuals getting screwed by the man. It's a bunch of people, who spent a combined eight minutes of time designing their website, and months of deliberation to come up with awful names like RaketheRake, losing money for doing absolutely nothing that obviously wasn't going to last forever.

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It really does suck for these affiliate guys who are now staring at reality in the form of two unpleasant options: learn to play poker well themselves or get a job. Brutal.

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apparantly you think that the online poker industry will magically defy all odds and be the only industry in the history of the world that has never had to lower prices (rake) due to competition. It's an inconvinence for a short period of time. There's no need to make melodramatic posts.

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Party recently increased the rake dramatically despite growing competition. Why do you think this will change when the majority of players don't care enough about it?

[palman]

Economics and history.

They've already introduced the VIP rewards system thing on apparantly a limited basis to people not signed up under affiliates (essentially lowering their rake 20% to some people) due to competition. The competition isn't going anywhere.