Why I don't like AK

#1 10-17-2005, 08:12 AM

Ok, AK sooted looks so nice and I win a lot with it...however, what can i do when situations like this happen? Did i play it correctly...I think i probably should have bet a little stronger on the turn (1/2 pot?) and then fold to raise?
No real reads on villain, he just sat recently but seems a bit tricky.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) converter

Hero ($219.30)
MP2 ($50)
CO ($226.60)
Button ($151.35)
SB ($72.30)
BB ($47.55)
UTG ($190)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, CO calls $8, 3 folds.

Flop: ($19) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $16, CO raises to $32, Hero calls $16.

Turn: ($83) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $30, CO raises to $80, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $193

Hattifnatt · #2 10-17-2005, 08:14 AM

I like your line.

Skuzzy · #3 10-17-2005, 08:24 AM

Why? What do you think villain is min-raising with that hero beats?

I just wondered what your reasoning for this line would be?

Hattifnatt · #4 10-17-2005, 08:28 AM

I think Hero lost the minimum (except folding to the flopraise) the times he is beat. If villian for example has the [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]-draw he most likely will just call the $30 on the turn.

Skuzzy · #5 10-17-2005, 08:20 AM

The thing about min-raises is IMO - they are too small in general to be a possible bluff so when you see one it usualy represents the bettor trying to build a pot with a strong made hand.

His likely holdings are KK AA 77 maybe 33. AK is an outside chance for a tie. I fold to the flop raise. I also check/fold the turn if I had decided to call on the flop.

Dont go bust with TPTK!

Hattifnatt · #6 10-17-2005, 08:23 AM

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The thing about min-raises is IMO - they are too small in general to be a possible bluff so when you see one it usualy represents the bettor trying to build a pot with a strong made hand.

His likely holdings are KK AA 77 maybe 33. AK is an outside chance for a tie. I fold to the flop raise. I also check/fold the turn if I had decided to call on the flop.

Dont go bust with TPTK!

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I think the flop-call is ok because of the BD Flushdraw, otherwise a fold might be in order. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Skuzzy · #7 10-17-2005, 08:26 AM

Wow you were quick to respond - so ignore my other post!

Is a BD flush draw really worth the call? I never give any consideration to weak draws in this spot. That may be my mistake.

Hattifnatt · #8 10-17-2005, 08:29 AM

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Wow you were quick to respond - so ignore my other post!

Is a BD flush draw really worth the call? I never give any consideration to weak draws in this spot. That may be my mistake.

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Already answer the other post [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] , hopes it's OK.

I don't know actually but that's the feeling I got for this hand because of stacksizes etc.

#9 10-17-2005, 08:31 AM

BDFD...mmmmmmmmmm
that's mainly the reason I called the flop, however, (opponent-dependant), you guys don't usually call this flop raise? I think that at least 25% of the time opponent has a AK/worse K, lower pp and is getting tricky, flush draw, air...usually leading the turn after calling a flop raise will shut down most of these hands that AK is beating (not KQ in this situation which i think is very possible for villain) but i think folding this flop is extremely weak/tight

Skuzzy · #10 10-17-2005, 08:44 AM

If the preflop action had been reversed so he raised and you called his raise with AK then calling here has better prospects I think. The fact that he called your preflop raise is why I give him credit for the AK as a minimum on this flop. When a preflop raiser pot bets a Kxx flop it screams AK so vilain has to give you credit for that hand. If he wanted to shut you down then a PSR would do it better, a min- raise is just begging you to pay him off. I think villain is likely getting tricky too, I just think he's trickily getting you to put more money in on a losing hand.

If I have a read that villain likes to min raise his top pair hands that would be different too, but without a read I fold like an origami master.

I'm not swearing my play is right, I usually am weak tight, but I wouldnt lose sleep over folding to this flop raise.