Hmm, OOP with nasty turn card

macdaddy991 · #1 10-17-2005, 02:50 AM

CO will bet when checked to, moderately aggressive, rest of table somewhat ABC donkish

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero?

DCWildcat · #2 10-17-2005, 02:56 AM

3 other players = most unfortunate

With 1 or 2, this is a a pretty easy bet. So I'm going to say bet this one too.

jaxUp · #3 10-17-2005, 02:56 AM

Why am I so close to a c/f here?

DCWildcat · #4 10-17-2005, 03:02 AM

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Because two villains called 2 cold on the flop and a nasty card hit?

jaxUp · #5 10-17-2005, 03:06 AM

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Because two villains called 2 cold on the flop and a nasty card hit?

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Ah yes...I think I c/f this one. Seems weak though. Not sure what good a bet does though.

DCWildcat · #6 10-17-2005, 03:08 AM

Also, nearly 1/2 the cards in the deck put a 3 flush down on the river. Not making me happy. I'm leaning towards c/f...I hate it without a bet in front though, grr....

milesdyson · #7 10-17-2005, 03:11 AM

betting gets value from multiple weaker king hands, weaker pairs, straight draws, and flush draws that called the two bets on the flop. we could check and see, i guess. if it's bet and raised we fold. if CO bets again i'd raise.

jaxUp · #8 10-17-2005, 03:16 AM

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betting gets value from multiple weaker king hands, weaker pairs, straight draws, and flush draws that called the two bets on the flop. we could check and see, i guess. if it's bet and raised we fold. if CO bets again i'd raise.

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I hate to bring the weaksauce on this one, but we're probably behind here at least 50% of the time (I'd go as high as 75) and we're getting drawn out on almost every other time. A diamond or spade will kill us about 20% of the time they hit, a Q or T gives a likely 2 pair, and there are a few straight draws that could kill us as well. I c/f.

macdaddy991 · #9 10-17-2005, 03:13 AM

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Because two villains called 2 cold on the flop and a nasty card hit?

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Ah yes...I think I c/f this one. Seems weak though. Not sure what good a bet does though.

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CO will bet anything checked to him. If he bets, I have no idea where I stand.

I was close to bet/folding to a raise or check folding.

#10 10-17-2005, 03:15 AM

check/fold, unless it's the CO who bets again, then raise.

3 callers, including 2 cold-callers, in a medium-sized pot with only a flush draw out there. One of them probably has a set or under pair with an OC and that OC is likely the A, giving them 2 pair. There are also 2 flush draws out there now and you have no redraws.