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Old 10-15-2005, 12:49 AM
private joker private joker is offline
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Default AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

Villain is 2+2 SS poster Will Magic. He has no idea who I am.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (8.20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB
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Old 10-15-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

Bet the river.

If you want to check you should fold.
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Old 10-15-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

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Bet the river.

If you want to check you should fold.

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Even though he doesn't know who I am, won't he suspect a Clarkmeister and raise with less than a spade? I feel like showing down top 2 here.
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Old 10-15-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

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Even though he doesn't know who I am, won't he suspect a Clarkmeister and raise with less than a spade? I feel like showing down top 2 here.

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Um, what?!?!?!

1) You've been betting the whole way, so it's not really a "clarkmeister"
2) No, why the [censored] would he suspect that if he doesn't know who you are?
3) I think he has a showdownable hand, so it's more likely he will just call
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Old 10-15-2005, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

Bet the river.

Since you checked, fold.
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Old 10-15-2005, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

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Since you checked, fold.


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the river is a bet/fold, but close in my oppinion

this statement makes no sense to me, just because you check a river dosent mean you are sure you are beat, and i could see a bet from a 2+2er with perhaps A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] here, there are a lot of times when inducing a bluff is the best action, id like to hear the reasoning behind this if its serious
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

The only hands he will bet that we beat are 2 pair and there's no way he has 2 pair.
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

Checking allows him to play the river perfectly.
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Old 10-15-2005, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

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Checking allows him to play the river perfectly.

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Jason... this is a great comment. This is one of the most articulate ways of thinking of river play OOP I've heard... [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
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Old 10-15-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: AKs, monotone board, vs. 2+2er

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Checking allows him to play the river perfectly.

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So are you assuming that a 2p2er would only bet here with a spade?
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