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I smell a bluff...
Villain is known to be aggressive. I've played about 40 hands with him and I'm starting to get a good feel for how he plays. I've been a tiny bit tight, but very aggressive. I'm not sure how much he notices.
I really doubt he has an ace because he would probably go for the fancy check-raise if he did. I'm pretty sure I would have heard from a medium pocket pair on the flop or turn. So I suspect he had overcards and was chasing, and there's an outside chance of a small pocket pair 44-22 and was planning the river donk the whole time. How do you play it? Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (3.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (5.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero... |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
no specifics about his aggression really, just that he is aggressive.
i don't think he would try a check raise with an ace (because you raised preflop and have been betting the whole way), but i also think that if you call this it's not very -EV. so generally i would fold if i had bet the turn. against someone who will bluff a lot of rivers, i'll gladly check behind my K high on the turn and call a river bet. |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
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no specifics about his aggression really, just that he is aggressive. i don't think he would try a check raise with an ace (because you raised preflop and have been betting the whole way), but i also think that if you call this it's not very -EV. so generally i would fold if i had bet the turn. against someone who will bluff a lot of rivers, i'll gladly check behind my K high on the turn and call a river bet. [/ QUOTE ] Word. If I think he has a tendency bluff the river, I check behind the turn and call a river bet. I would only bet the turn in that case if the opp. was so loose that I'm value betting, and planning on betting the river as well. |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
I'd like to say that the pot is sufficiently large enuf for me to call down, mainly just to see what he's playin. But in reality I 'spect that i'd fold here. I doubt it's a bluff (at least it usually isn't when i'm there.) I'da probably given it up on the turn.
edit: against someone who will bluff a lot of rivers, i'll gladly check behind my K high on the turn and call a river bet. yeah, i like this |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
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Villain is known to be aggressive. I've played about 40 hands with him and I'm starting to get a good feel for how he plays. I've been a tiny bit tight, but very aggressive. I'm not sure how much he notices. I really doubt he has an ace because he would probably go for the fancy check-raise if he did. I'm pretty sure I would have heard from a medium pocket pair on the flop or turn. So I suspect he had overcards and was chasing, and there's an outside chance of a small pocket pair 44-22 and was planning the river donk the whole time. How do you play it? Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (3.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (5.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero... [/ QUOTE ] Hero thinks for a long time (probably 7-10 seconds), calls, and loses to KJo. I'm still not sure if I like the call. My gut feeling is that it's right on the cusp, as I think he would do the same with QJ and maybe even QT/JT. When you balance those against the times he donks pocket pair or an ace (and against the size of the pot), it seems to be very close. |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
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Hero thinks for a long time (probably 7-10 seconds), calls, and loses to KJo. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't think about this before, but why did you raise an UTG limper with KJo? I would probably just limp with it and hope to connect with the flop unless UTG is pretty loose, say above 40-45 vpip - then I would try to fold the blinds and get it heads up. |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
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I didn't think about this before, but why did you raise an UTG limper with KJo? I would probably just limp with it and hope to connect with the flop unless UTG is pretty loose, say above 40-45 vpip - then I would try to fold the blinds and get it heads up. [/ QUOTE ] It's 4-handed. |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
Is he ever going to bet/fold this river?
If the answer is 'yes' I would prefer raising to calling. (And I know the results are in here, but even before I saw them I was worried this guy might be bluffing with the best hand.) If he's going to show down any pair than obviously calling is better, but folding is probably best of all. |
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Re: I smell a bluff...
Raising looks to be a good play, but so does calling imo. KQ is a clear call and QT is a clear raise. KT could very well be a good hand to use a mixed strategy with. Since you are going to iso-raise a lot more with K-hign the Q-high, it looks like a prime hand to raise x% of the time (where x is say 15% of the time).
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Re: I smell a bluff...
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Is he ever going to bet/fold this river? If the answer is 'yes' I would prefer raising to calling. (And I know the results are in here, but even before I saw them I was worried this guy might be bluffing with the best hand.) If he's going to show down any pair than obviously calling is better, but folding is probably best of all. [/ QUOTE ] It's really close. I almost raised, I almost folded, then I decided to call. Generically, players have a tough time folding a pair HU on the river. I can almost hear them thinking "He probably has the ace... oh well... I want to see it". The river bluff-raise is really reserved for players who are good enough to lay down the best hand sometimes. Maybe if I were playing $5/10 (or against a pretty good $1/2 player), I would pull the river bluff-raise. At $1-2, I just don't see it working often enough. |
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