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Old 10-09-2005, 01:23 AM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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Default standard flop play?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>,
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Old 10-09-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: standard flop play?

Yup, good raise. We will not often have the best hand, but when we do it's necessary to do what we can to increase our chances of winning in this very large pot.

The turn is where it's going to get sticky but you've given yourself alot of options. What turn cards are you betting, joker?

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Old 10-09-2005, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: standard flop play?

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What turn cards are you betting, joker?

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i was thinking any turn except an ace?
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Old 10-09-2005, 04:59 AM
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What turn cards are you betting, joker?

Surf

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i was thinking any turn

[/ QUOTE ]obviously.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:04 AM
Megenoita Megenoita is offline
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Default Re: standard flop play?

I'm confused why this is a standard play and why it increases our chances of winning. Why not just call?

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Old 10-09-2005, 05:15 AM
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I'd say to knock out SB and to be able to take a free river/showdown if u like.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:19 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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I'm confused why this is a standard play and why it increases our chances of winning. Why not just call?

M

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We can push out other players with random draws, giving us more clean outs.
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Old 10-09-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: standard flop play?

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I'm confused why this is a standard play and why it increases our chances of winning. Why not just call?

M

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I'm with you, although I think it's close. This is a large-ish pot but not super-large. If we're ahead, it's not by much. We could easily get 3-bet. And the turn card will bring us some information. This is the converse of a hand I posted about yesterday, when in doubt I tend to make small errors in the direction of my suitedness.
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:33 AM
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What turn cards are you betting, joker?

Surf

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i was thinking any turn except an ace?

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A K puts us behind AK, AQ, and TT+. There are 16 combos each of AK + AQ that we are ahead of on the flop. How many more hands do you think he is raising here that we remain ahead of on the turn when a K hits?

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Old 10-09-2005, 10:27 AM
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If I'm the button and it's folded to me I allways raise with Q10s&amp;o. Bad play?
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