KQo- Ace on turn, c/c or c/f on river?

smokylosecannon · #1 10-07-2005, 01:13 PM

No read on villians since total hands I have on them is less than 15. Comments on turn and river play is welcome.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (7.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Fire again to see where I am. Both of them says they have Ace.

River: (11.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero?

check and Button bets to me. I am getting 12.75:1. What your river play? Trust the information I got on turn so fold or call due to pot odds? I still have CO behind of me to act.

#2 10-07-2005, 01:17 PM

I thought you played the hand very well, you must bet the turn in case your hand is still good. On the river, you should call as your hand will be good enough times given the pot odds.

ghostwriter · #3 10-07-2005, 01:18 PM

You didn't get any information on the turn. They both called but utg-1 folded on the river so he obviously didn't have an ace. Who knows what the other guy has? Who cares? You'll find out when you call which you should every time.

Buckmulligan · #4 10-07-2005, 01:31 PM

I bet the end, especially because I expect a couple callers, and I'm pretty certain we have better than 33% equity. I probably fold to a raise.

Mister Z · #5 10-07-2005, 04:08 PM

The calls on the turn do not say your opponents have an ace. It says they are not very good at poker. Raise the river.

ZenMusician · #6 10-07-2005, 05:58 PM

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Raise the river.

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*vomits*

call

-ZEN

elindauer · #7 10-07-2005, 09:55 PM

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Raise the river.

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*vomits*

call

-ZEN

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If you're already going to put in one bet, don't you think there is an argument for putting in the 2nd bet and preventing an overcall? Personally, I think a fold is best, but if you're going to advocate a call, I don't see how you can think a raise is worth vomiting over.

-eric

siccjay · #8 10-08-2005, 08:04 AM

Because most Aces are calling regardless of the # of bets. They have a pair of ACES!!!!!

chesspain · #9 10-08-2005, 08:33 AM

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Because most Aces are calling regardless of the # of bets. They have a pair of ACES!!!!!

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Especially since any ace is now chopping unless the OP has AK or AT.

W. Deranged · #10 10-07-2005, 06:01 PM

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The calls on the turn do not say your opponents have an ace. It says they are not very good at poker. Raise the river.

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This is nuts.