2/4 NL big overbet

[JKratzer]

No reads on villian, he sat down less than a minute ago.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($456.40)
UTG+1 ($261.01)
UTG+2 ($925.02)
MP1 ($400)
MP2 ($400)
MP3 ($458.30)
CO ($567.40)
Button ($403.70)
Hero ($654.50)
BB ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($20) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $15.

Turn: ($80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, MP1 calls $366 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $491

Reads? I make a crying call.

[JKratzer]

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Reads?

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edited.

[HarryW]

Call

Villains most likely hands are kt, qt, jt, t9. If he held a set of 22 or 33 then he just got extremely lucky that you have such a fine second best hand. His bet looks like a weak T trying to stack an over/under pair. Thing is most players don't flop a huge hand and try to shut everyone out, especially at 2/4.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Min c/r = suck.

[JKratzer]

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Does it always suck or just in this spot?

I normally don't min c/r but I figured to be WAWB in this situation (WA is kinda what I assumed) and thought I would outkick him. I wanted to keep him in the hand with a K,Q,J,etc. kicker and didn't want to scare him off. I asked xorbie the same question, and I'm being sincere, how would you have played it?

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Min c/r = suck.

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Does it always suck or just in this spot?

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It sucks in almost all spots at 2/4. Only time I could see it being decent is with short stacks in relation to the pot so that it would be pot committing if called or with deep stacks as a predecessor to a bluff but that is a pretty risky line to be setting up bluffs OOP. In any case, I either lead the flop, c/c the turn, and lead the river, or I c/c the flop and lead the turn.

[arod15]

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exactly

[xorbie]

Fold, but I just want to add that you really messed this hand up. After the flop he easily puts you on a T and you don't know [censored] about what he has.

[JKratzer]

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Fold, but I just want to add that you really messed this hand up. After the flop he easily puts you on a T and you don't know [censored] about what he has.

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I don't normally minraise, but in this situation, I figured any action I would get would be from a weaker ten. I wanted to keep him in the hand assuming he only had 2 outs to beat me. After his turn all-in I put him on 22 and folded.

You don't like how I played it, ok - how should I have played it?

JKratzer