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#1
10-05-2005, 06:09 PM
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Ax in the BB in a live game.
Soaring Eagle casino. Mount Pleasant, MI.
$3/6 game that was deelicious... HHH is in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG is tight preflop. He is a guy who rides in with his buddy from about 45 minutes away. He buys in cheap and only plays premium hands/pocket pairs/occasional suited aces. When he has a good holding "I don't care. I am not folding that." are the words that come from his mouth. I have seen him raise the turn and river with a non-nut str8 on an obvious flush board and payoff a 3-bet. Not good. Second villain is a real treat. On my right in SB is a young kid with a band-aid on his swollen eye. He is wearing some funky sweatshirt and keeps asking "how much can I raise it to?" He is a gambooler who has been hitting all sorts of stuff. Keeps showing me his cards when I am out of the hand. He raises the turn with flush draws and calls 3-bets with second and third pair. He keeps murmuring stuff like "I don't know how to play poker, heh..." and he is up like 40-50 bb in under an hour. I have been 3-betting his oddball preflop raises and getting stung, making me look like a bit of a dope at this point. The other end of the table are calling us the "corner" and our raises are getting no respect. Preflop raiser on button is weak-tight. Looking at the chips as though he is scared of the stakes. heh heh. <font color="red">Deelicious.</font> Preflop(9 handed): UTG calls, fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, <font color="red">button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, <font color="red">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, button calls, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop(5 players/16sb): A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets </font>... Any thoughts at this point? 
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#2
10-05-2005, 06:16 PM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
I'm not even enthusiastic about the preflop call with a dominated hand that plays quite poorly multiway. And then betting into a LRR? I think I'm checking the flop.
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#3
10-05-2005, 06:21 PM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
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I'm not even enthusiastic about the preflop call with a dominated hand that plays quite poorly multiway. And then betting into a LRR? I think I'm checking the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah... You mention in the OP that Button is tight - so why call with A5o again? Is he so weak-tight he'll fold AK/AQ if you show aggression? I doubt it. And UTG+1 is tight pre-flop and LRR... ugh.
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#4
10-05-2005, 06:20 PM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
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Preflop raiser on button is weak-tight [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] UTG is tight preflop. ... He buys in cheap and only plays premium hands/pocket pairs/occasional suited aces [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] HHH is in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] . Preflop(9 handed): UTG calls, fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, button raises, SB calls, Hero calls [/ QUOTE ] I'm afraid this is where you lost me. I think you need to pick a better spot against these guys...
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#5
10-05-2005, 06:28 PM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
You can't outplay even the worst oppoenents with cheese like A5o. I would fold preflop. Hope you got lucky and noone had an ace.
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#6
10-05-2005, 06:55 PM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
The REAL Cerebral Assassin doesn't call in the blinds with ace-rag.
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#7
10-05-2005, 07:10 PM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
Soaring Eagle casino. Mount Pleasant, MI.
$3/6 game that was deelicious... HHH is in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Preflop(9 handed): UTG calls, fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, <font color="red">button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, <font color="red">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, button calls, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop(5 players/16sb): A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets </font>, <font color="red">UTG raises </font>, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls. Turn(3 players/14bb): 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets </font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River(3 players/17bb): Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="red">SB raises </font>, Hero sees UTG has chips in hand to call and muckalucks, UTG calls. Complete disaster or not? During the play of the hand I had a strong feeling that UTG did not have an ace. I knew the SB had any two and had his seatbelt securely fastened. Other than the folding preflop option - feedback?
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#8
10-07-2005, 10:20 AM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
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Soaring Eagle casino. Mount Pleasant, MI. $3/6 game that was deelicious... HHH is in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Preflop(9 handed): UTG calls, fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, <font color="red">button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, <font color="red">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, button calls, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop(5 players/16sb): A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets </font>, <font color="red">UTG raises </font>, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls. Turn(3 players/14bb): 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets </font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River(3 players/17bb): Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="red">SB raises </font>, Hero sees UTG has chips in hand to call and muckalucks, UTG calls. Complete disaster or not? During the play of the hand I had a strong feeling that UTG did not have an ace. I knew the SB had any two and had his seatbelt securely fastened. Other than the folding preflop option - feedback? [/ QUOTE ] OK. Last bump. Last chance to scold me. Limp reraiser had KK. SB LAG had QJoff. I tried a little pokerstove on the flop. Not sure if it means anything... <font color="blue">Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 10,836 games 0.062 secs 174,774 games/sec Board: Ac 6c Jd Dead: equity (%) win (%) / tie (%) Hand 1: 28.1838 % [ 00.28 00.00 ] { AA-QQ, AKs } Hand 2: 58.0749 % [ 00.58 00.00 ] { Ah5s } Hand 3: 13.7412 % [ 00.14 00.00 ] { QhJs } </font> I think a hand range of AA,KK,QQ,AKs is good for the limp reraiser. Again, SB could have anything.
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#9
10-07-2005, 11:50 AM
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Re: Ax in the BB in a live game.
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Limp reraiser had KK. SB LAG had QJoff. I tried a little pokerstove on the flop. Not sure if it means anything... <font color="blue">Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 10,836 games 0.062 secs 174,774 games/sec Board: Ac 6c Jd Dead: equity (%) win (%) / tie (%) Hand 1: 28.1838 % [ 00.28 00.00 ] { AA-QQ, AKs } Hand 2: 58.0749 % [ 00.58 00.00 ] { Ah5s } Hand 3: 13.7412 % [ 00.14 00.00 ] { QhJs } </font> I think a hand range of AA,KK,QQ,AKs is good for the limp reraiser. Again, SB could have anything. [/ QUOTE ] Your Pokerstove analysis is off because it uses information you didn't have when you made your first bet. When you bet, you didn't know whether button had you dominated. After he folds, you know he didn't, but you can't use that information when estimating your equity. You need to throw in button's range of hands into the mix as well.
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