AK Hand vs Chief911

Benal · #1 10-04-2005, 07:45 PM

This hand occured in yesterday's Stars 11R. I was new at the table, and basically folded for an orbit or two until this hand came up. BB = Chief911 who seemed to be playing fairly tight.. What's your plan on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

Button (t17810)
SB (t11163)
BB (t15570)
UTG (t12950)
Hero (t10925)
MP1 (t9915)
MP2 (t10167)
MP3 (t6650)
CO (t8500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t600, 6 folds, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1300) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t200, Hero raises to t1000, BB calls t800.

Turn: (t3300) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t1000, Hero?

locutus2002 · #2 10-04-2005, 07:59 PM

I'd fold. Maybe Chief had a bad string of cards, but he's not tight. Still, it doesn't look like he's going to let this one go.

2005 · #3 10-04-2005, 08:02 PM

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I'd fold. Maybe Chief had a bad string of cards, but he's not tight. Still, it doesn't look like he's going to let this one go.

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I was about to wonder why you were folding this on an a high board then I realized I'm an idiot. Don't ask me where I saw that ace.

#4 10-04-2005, 08:37 PM

I'd fold it. If he called your big reraise and then lead out, he probably likes his hand, or had a read that you didn't have something yet. Either way, too many hands you could be behind here, and I don't think he is going to fold this hand.

#5 10-04-2005, 08:39 PM

Time to cut your losses and bail out. Cheif looks to like this flop and I'm pretty sure your beat here.

Benal · #6 10-04-2005, 08:49 PM

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I'm pretty sure your beat here

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I don't doubt this, but I dont put him on a Queen or a set with his line.

Maybe he remembers a post I made some time ago where I said it really pisses me off when someone bets into me when I raised preflop [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

#7 10-04-2005, 09:01 PM

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Maybe he remembers a post I made some time ago where I said it really pisses me off when someone bets into me when I raised preflop [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Agreed. Betting into a preflop raiser is a weird play because c-betting is so incredibly common. Minbetting into a preflop raiser is very strange. Villain then makes the same play again on the turn. My read on chief is [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]. 9T? I have no idea. I honestly can't think of a hand where this play makes any sense.

Chief, commentary?

adanthar · #8 10-04-2005, 09:00 PM

I think if you make it 4K now he folds AQ, but he obviously calls/pushes with a set.

Up to you where to go with this one. Personally, I'd just call on the flop, but I'd also do it with aces vs. him (*cough* maybe *cough*).

betgo · #9 10-04-2005, 09:31 PM

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I think if you make it 4K now he folds AQ, but he obviously calls/pushes with a set.

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I don't think AQ is folding period.

However, putting in a substantial raise or pushing is a reasonable alternative to folding. Villain could have a pocket pair or second pair or something, which he probably would fold to a big raise.

ansky451 · #10 10-04-2005, 09:34 PM

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I think if you make it 4K now he folds AQ, but he obviously calls/pushes with a set.

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I don't think AQ is folding period.

However, putting in a substantial raise or pushing is a reasonable alternative to folding. Villain could have a pocket pair or second pair or something, which he probably would fold to a big raise.

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I agree, it's pretty obvious Chief knew his flop donk bet was getting raised, and therefore I don't know how often he would even considering folding top pair. I may even go broke with a queen no kicker against a very aggro player in his spot- the way he played it. AQ is not folding to a reraise here.