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Old 10-03-2005, 01:06 PM
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I have been beating 25$ and lower for 6 months on Doyle's room now. My play is and always has been intuitive, If I had to rely on my math skills I would prolly fry!
I have skimmed through a couple dozen poker books which helped me not lose $ as I was beginning, but I still had to learn alot of lessons the hard way. SNG poker at first was like trying to read a book with my face a half inch from the page, I couldn't understand the big picture, I had no Idea how long the long run is for you guys that play 1000s of these while multi tabling.
I was always just single tabling my ass off at these low limits which probably made for a great ROI (I didn't keep records) but it wasn't optimal for $/hr, and every Bad beat and swing hurt and was very discouraging.
For me failure isn't an option I just got out of the Air force and I am going to make this my living. Last month I cashed out 900 from doyles room, which along with a $500 monthly retirement check I will have my very inexpensive bills covered untill I improve my game.
I have been lurking 2+2 for a couple of days now and I have decided to become involved. Reading posts about ROI bubble play and other things I'd already thought about but never had a word do describe has been encouraging and eye opening.
Raptor is my fav. poster as I've yet to see him use a # in a post -holla

I am here to stay as a 2+2er. I'm gonna to be the guy with 5000 posts and stories of a 70 buy in downswing at the 109s
(I have never had that kind of $ in my life)
Lame tired intro aside. I am gonna get right into a question.


I have heard that alot of guys 8+ tabling pretty much pass on anything less than AA KK AK and maybe QQ in levels 1-3
Well, first off I am not yet comfortable doing any more than 4 tables. So I was wondering If this high preflop standard is considered optimal early? or is it because you have so many tables running at once you dont have the time to get involved in other speculative hands. If you were playing 25$< buy ins what are your starting requirements early and how do you play them preflop? Also am I an idiot for playing on Doyle's room? I have heard it is a tight site.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:20 PM
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I'm gonna to ...post stories of a 70 buy in downswing at the 109s


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Please never do this.

Many of the posters play more than 3-4 hands early, raptor only does this cuz he's a bot. Welcome to the forums [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:20 PM
mike28 mike28 is offline
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I have been lurking 2+2 for a couple of days now

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Welcome.

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Raptor is my fav. poster as I've yet to see him use a # in a post -holla

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now leave.








Just kidding. As far as your question about lvls 1-3, I don't see much of a difference. Sure if you're only playing 1-4 tables you can pay more attention and make more "plays" or whatever based on reads but it's not worth it at the lower limits. All the chips are won in the late game, so why get involved early with marginal holdings? From the 55s down it's all about pushbotting.

If you want to play SNGs, move to the party network. I don't know Doyle's structure (guessing t1500 stacks) but the party network is where it's at. More players, more tables, t800 so higher $/hr rate. Easy decision

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aloha
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:09 PM
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This is actually the style I've had to teach myself. It's funny to actually hear other people say it's right. (tight early, steal late) I also love the term "spite call" lol it is so true. I love watching a fed up fish with plenty of chips left call my push with a 10 3 just cuz he thinks i'm raising too much (unfortunately sometimes I'm pushing with a dominated 9 3 when he does this!!!) I may be too agressive late. Are there hand standards for pushing? I've just been pretty agro in late play up untill now.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:11 PM
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Gotta get this if you're going to do this for a living.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:31 PM
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Gotta get this if you're going to do this for a living.

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Wow joker thanks!! do you use this WHILE you play or is it to analyze and fix your play after the game is over. Are there actual poker bots (not human) playing online?
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:32 PM
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Gotta get this if you're going to do this for a living.

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Wow joker thanks!! do you use this WHILE you play or is it to analyze and fix your play after the game is over. Are there actual poker bots (not human) playing online?

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of course there are, but party would never say yes. holla
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:33 PM
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No you use it after you play to analyze the game. Also, just spending time playing around with it is extremely useful.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:25 PM
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I currently 8 table the 109's - although I subscribe to the tight weak style of play for the first 1-4 levels.. I certainly don't pass on anything less then QQ - set value (if the price is right) in the early levels accounts for many of my double ups.. a set is easier to play then top pair with AK..

but this is me - you got to play your own game homie!! -
if you think you have an edge over your opponents with postflop play.. get involved!

I can't speak for anyone that 12 tables.. but playing 8 tables .. with practice.. and two monitors.. is easy - particularly in the first 3 levels.. this is when I read this forum.. or take notes

Just play your own game playa!! - and get off Doyle's room.. who wants to look at his ugly face all afternoon!

cheers.. and happy retirement
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:25 PM
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if you're playing 10000000 tables, your time is too valuable/scarce to screw around with "marginal" hands like JJ/AQ. for the normals, not limping 55 behind a couple of limpers in the first two levels is a sin.

welcome to the forum.
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