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View Poll Results: Are you a robotic player?
Yes, I multitable without reads and just play 6 20.69%
Maybe, I multitable, but I incorporate reads and think a bit before acting 18 62.07%
Not really, I don't like to play a lot of tables at once, and really think about my reads before acting 4 13.79%
I take twenty seconds before choosing anything and the people at my table say ZZZZZZZZZZ all the time and are generally aggravated 1 3.45%
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Old 09-30-2005, 05:26 PM
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Default A Poll: Abortion and the Death Penalty

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Old 09-30-2005, 05:31 PM
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I support the concept of a death penalty, but right now we need a moratorium as it is currently administered in a very provably racist way.

I'm also pro-choice for the first trimester, pro-life after that- same as the Supreme Court.

So I guess I've vote pro for both.
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Old 09-30-2005, 05:34 PM
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I support the concept of a death penalty, but right now we need a moratorium as it is currently administered in a very provably racist way.

I'm also pro-choice for the first trimester, pro-life after that- same as the Supreme Court.

So I guess I've vote pro for both.

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Since splitting hairs has been rampant when discussing abortion in the other thread, I'll bring this up. The day before the first trimester is up, the fetus is not a human, but after that, he is? Where is that line? At midnight when the clock strikes?

edit: and you support the "concept" of the death penalty? You support terminating what is debated to be human, but are ok with killing what is definitley a human? I'm confused.
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Old 09-30-2005, 05:51 PM
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Where is that line? At midnight when the clock strikes?

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Do you mean GMT or PST? Also to properly and accurately figure the first trimester exactly you need to know EXACTLY when conception occured and EXACTLY when birth WILL (or would) occur.

Otherwise it probably makes sense to use an arbitrary best guess because without such things life would be a totally fungible mess.
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Old 09-30-2005, 05:55 PM
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Where is that line? At midnight when the clock strikes?

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Do you mean GMT or PST? Also to properly and accurately figure the first trimester exactly you need to know EXACTLY when conception occured and EXACTLY when birth WILL (or would) occur.

Otherwise it probably makes sense to use an arbitrary best guess because without such things life would be a totally fungible mess.

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thank you for proving my point that splitting hairs is stupid. Although im not sure that is what you were trying to do....
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...thank you for proving my point that splitting hairs is stupid. Although im not sure that is what you were trying to do...


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And, since he missed it the first time around, I doubt he'll catch on even with your explanation.

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Old 09-30-2005, 06:32 PM
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...edit: and you support the "concept" of the death penalty? You support terminating what is debated to be human, but are ok with killing what is definitley a human? I'm confused....


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I think he's confused as to the "concept" of life.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:11 PM
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Since splitting hairs has been rampant when discussing abortion in the other thread, I'll bring this up. The day before the first trimester is up, the fetus is not a human, but after that, he is? Where is that line? At midnight when the clock strikes?


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It depends, if it's Sunday, Tuesday or Thursday then the line is at 5:46PM (Philipines Time)

If it's Monday, Wednesday or Saturday the line is at 8:13 AM (Dominican Republic time)

If it's on Friday then it's 10:36PM (Crawford, TX time)


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I'm confused.

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No, you're not.
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Old 09-30-2005, 07:49 PM
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Since splitting hairs has been rampant when discussing abortion in the other thread, I'll bring this up. The day before the first trimester is up, the fetus is not a human, but after that, he is? Where is that line? At midnight when the clock strikes?

[/ QUOTE ]The line for when life begins, in my world, is the same as when life ends for the rest of the world: brainwave activity, which is loosely around the end of the 3rd month (which can be debated plus or minus a few weeks).
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:05 PM
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Since splitting hairs has been rampant when discussing abortion in the other thread, I'll bring this up. The day before the first trimester is up, the fetus is not a human, but after that, he is? Where is that line? At midnight when the clock strikes?

[/ QUOTE ]The line for when life begins, In my world , is the same as when life ends for the rest of the world: brainwave activity, which is loosely around the end of the 3rd month (which can be debated plus or minus a few weeks).


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But in my world, it begins at conception. This is why debates on abortion will never be solved, it will continue to go in circles.
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