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09-30-2005, 04:00 PM
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Best way to play for a bad player
Okay this may sound like somewhat of a rediculas question, but lets assume a bad player has to play with $100. Assuming he knows the rules and isnt absolutely horrible just isnt typically a winning player, what would be the best route for him to take do you think? I would think that certainly a cash game would probably not be for this player. But perhaps a tournament or the steps on PP. If you had to tell a player that normally loses how to spend his $100 what route would you tell him to go. And lets leave out the obvious responses like "he shouldnt be playing anyways" lets just assume he has to.
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#2
09-30-2005, 04:04 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
Online micro-limits.
With $100 he can comfortably play at the .10/.20 tables and will stand a decent chance of improving his game before he loses his bankroll.
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09-30-2005, 04:12 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
Okay that definitely makes sense but thats not really what i was looking for. Lets put another stipulation on the situation. Assume that the player has only one week to play and must make at least $500 from his $100 or give all the money back, then what would you tell the player to do?
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#4
09-30-2005, 04:20 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
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Okay that definitely makes sense but thats not really what i was looking for. Lets put another stipulation on the situation. Assume that the player has only one week to play and must make at least $500 from his $100 or give all the money back, then what would you tell the player to do? [/ QUOTE ] I would say, in that case, that his absolute best chance would be to play freezout MTTs - probably $10 buy ins or something like that - he could get lucky in one of them and win all the money he needs.
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#5
10-01-2005, 05:11 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
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Okay that definitely makes sense but thats not really what i was looking for. Lets put another stipulation on the situation. Assume that the player has only one week to play and must make at least $500 from his $100 or give all the money back, then what would you tell the player to do? [/ QUOTE ] Are blackjack and craps out? Seems better than trying to force a bad player to try to hit big at poker. That said, if he's not a winning player, I think he's best-off at a 10/20 limit table where he has enough for the minimum buy-in and he'll be riding almost pure variance. When you're trying to get the best results for a loser, you want to up variance as high as you can. There's no way to increase his EV enough to make a real difference in getting to $500 in a week. Just make it as much of a gamble as possible. 2nd
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#6
10-01-2005, 05:47 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
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[ QUOTE ] Okay that definitely makes sense but thats not really what i was looking for. Lets put another stipulation on the situation. Assume that the player has only one week to play and must make at least $500 from his $100 or give all the money back, then what would you tell the player to do? [/ QUOTE ] Are blackjack and craps out? Seems better than trying to force a bad player to try to hit big at poker. That said, if he's not a winning player, I think he's best-off at a 10/20 limit table where he has enough for the minimum buy-in and he'll be riding almost pure variance. When you're trying to get the best results for a loser, you want to up variance as high as you can. There's no way to increase his EV enough to make a real difference in getting to $500 in a week. Just make it as much of a gamble as possible. 2nd [/ QUOTE ] well put
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#7
10-03-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
In Skalanksy Advanced Tournament Strategy guide their is a system to play mtt's that is fold or all in. Create a spreadsheet to implement the all in or fold strategy and play a number of $2.00 and less Mtt's at Poker Stars. Eventually your friend will all in and win a number of races/ dominated hands in a row and find he can get to a final table. A little more luck and he could get the 500
[ QUOTE ] Okay that definitely makes sense but thats not really what i was looking for. Lets put another stipulation on the situation. Assume that the player has only one week to play and must make at least $500 from his $100 or give all the money back, then what would you tell the player to do? [/ QUOTE ]
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#8
10-03-2005, 01:08 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
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Okay that definitely makes sense but thats not really what i was looking for. Lets put another stipulation on the situation. Assume that the player has only one week to play and must make at least $500 from his $100 or give all the money back, then what would you tell the player to do? [/ QUOTE ] I think he should play whatever can get him to 500 in the smallest number of hands. Since he's a bad player, more hands = more -EV. That probably rules out any tournaments. So I guess he should probably play the biggest NL cash table he can join with $100.
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#10
09-30-2005, 04:23 PM
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Re: Best way to play for a bad player
Play the smallest micro limits youc an find, the competition will be so weak it will keep him afloat (aka even at worst).
Also play UBER tight, I'm thinking VPIP of 12-15%. Doesn't matter how bad the player is, if he folds every single hand except monsters it's hard for him to lose money fast. He can just assume a rockish mentality at first, and will still probably be profitable due to the crappiness of the opposition. He could play on $100 along time... probably never get anywhere, but be able to play forever.
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