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Old 09-29-2005, 10:42 PM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default 9Ts UTG

I just saw a 2+2 stat (27/18) raise 9Ts UTG. Is this standard for anyone and why?

Edit: this was at 5/10, btw.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:44 PM
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In the 3/6 6m game and the 5/10 6m tables I've played, that's terrible. Investing two bets OOP with 9Ts is surely a leak.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:47 PM
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In the 3/6 6m game and the 5/10 6m tables I've played, that's terrible. Investing two bets OOP with 9Ts is surely a leak.

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You're wayyyyyyyyy too rigid on preflop strategy homie.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:52 PM
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In the 3/6 6m game and the 5/10 6m tables I've played, that's terrible. Investing two bets OOP with 9Ts is surely a leak.

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You're wayyyyyyyyy too rigid on preflop strategy homie.

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In the games I play, I think if you're going to do it regularly it's a leak. 3/6 6m isn't really about Shania and so on. Maybe in your games it is.

Maybe "terrible" is an exaggeration, but I think it's bad and should be a standard fold and only raised from time to time, particularly in the presence of observant opponents.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:53 PM
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No game is purely about it. But the idea is that even semi observant opponents will go "hey he raised 910 utg, wtf?" and they will think you are retarded. Thats a good thing.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:55 PM
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No game is purely about it. But the idea is that even semi observant opponents will go "hey he raised 910 utg, wtf?" and they will think you are retarded. Thats a good thing.

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You just word-for-word described me and my reaction at the table.
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Old 09-30-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: 9Ts UTG

If I see a 27/18 player raise T9s utg, the last thing I think is 'retarded'. The first thing I do is try to remember recent history of this guy and then take a quick look around the table. Could be tilt, could be a bunch of wimps stacked to his left, could be he's been playing tight for a while, prolly not that he's suddenly become retarded.

FWIW, from my perspective, during a day of 1500 hands there are plenty of times that raising similar hands from UTG/MP is called for.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:53 PM
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I play 5/10, not 3/6.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:54 PM
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I play 5/10, not 3/6.

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I don't know how many observant opponents there are in that game, but my experiences are that it's loose enough that I don't want be OOP for two bets with that hand unless I know that it will somehow benefit me later.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:48 PM
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That's what I thought. It definitely threw me off though...
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