Live vs Online

[ninjia3x]

In harrington's book and from what I hear fom other pros, they always say online is much looser and filled with more bad players then live.

But in this forum and by my own exprience, i feel that its the other way around.

Can anyone explain these two opposing views?

[Lucky]

Harrington is old. The old denigrate what is new.

[Mark1808]

Above the lowest games I think online has tougher competition. Online tends to attract more educated thoughtful players. I notice in live games you get more people who just love action without any real thought on proper strategy.

[Lucky]

Also, "Real Players" have always laughed at net poker because the real money has been live. However, as games grow very big online, some of that is changing.

I mean, a few years ago, the biggest thing online was the 20/40 limit at paradise and the NL 3/6 at stars.

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i feel that its the other way around.

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[dachord]

I've got to disagree with you guys. If you're logic is correct why aren't the major tournaments online instead of live? I'll agree that in low $ homegames, there are a lot of amateurs, beginners, wannabes, and just plain delusional idiots. BUT, high $ games, whether they're home games or at the B&M, attract some of the best players I've ever seen. Think about it guys, when playing online, the only tell that you're going to pick up on is the opponents style of betting. You could probably induce a tell by sending an IM, but then again jock itch could be good for you. A good live player picks up on tells from much more than just the betting style. Right? Think about it another way: How do you bluff on line and get away with it? Is it the same in a live game? I say, no. There are so many more nuances that you can add that will make it difficult for an opponent to spot your bluff. The opposite end of that spectrum is that there are so many nuances that you may make that allows your opponent to spot your bluff (that's what separates ho-hum from good). My point is that these things just can't be done online.

[BobboFitos]

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I've got to disagree with you guys. If you're logic is correct why aren't the major tournaments online instead of live? I'll agree that in low $ homegames, there are a lot of amateurs, beginners, wannabes, and just plain delusional idiots. BUT, high $ games, whether they're home games or at the B&M, attract some of the best players I've ever seen. Think about it guys, when playing online, the only tell that you're going to pick up on is the opponents style of betting. You could probably induce a tell by sending an IM, but then again jock itch could be good for you. A good live player picks up on tells from much more than just the betting style. Right? Think about it another way: How do you bluff on line and get away with it? Is it the same in a live game? I say, no. There are so many more nuances that you can add that will make it difficult for an opponent to spot your bluff. The opposite end of that spectrum is that there are so many nuances that you may make that allows your opponent to spot your bluff (that's what separates ho-hum from good). My point is that these things just can't be done online.

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yeah exactly!!! plus online poker is rigged!!! i mean poker is all about nervous twitches and facial mannerisms and chip tricks!!!

[dachord]

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yeah exactly!!! plus online poker is rigged!!! i mean poker is all about nervous twitches and facial mannerisms and chip tricks!!!

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I know you're being sarcastic but I laughed anyway.

[Loci]

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sarcastic

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I don't know what this word means.

[Hattifnatt]

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sarcastic

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I don't know what this word means.

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Ironic in a (some level) evil way