What's the ruling here?

[The_Missile]

Action is post-flop. Player 1 bets. Player 2 calls. Player 3 pushes all of his chips into the middle (only about twice the original bet) but does not say raise or all-in. He simply pushes his chips in. The dealer, not realizing this, turns the next card. Soon after, he realizes that Player 3 has gone all-in. He argues that the card should stand because just pushing in chips without specifying is a call. The hand is played out and player 3 is eliminated.

Later on, other dealers on the floor and players are asked what would be the correct call; some say it was played properly, others say the turn card should have been put back in the deck, and the deck shuffled, with a new turn card.

What is the ruling?

[juanez]

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just pushing in chips without specifying is a call

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Bullshiit. He went all in by pushing his whole stack.

The turn should be brought back, left out of the deck and the action completed. Then there is a burn and turn of what would have been the river. Then the premature turn card is brought back into the deck and shuffled. Then the river is brought - some places burn before bringing the river card, some do not.

Edit:
If a player throws an oversized chip in without verbalizing "raise", it is considered a call. Say the bet is $50 and he throws in a $100 chip without declaring a raise. It's considered a call. Since this guy pushed ALL of his chips in, it's clearly a raise.

This dealer was confused. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Al_Capone_Junior]

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Player 3 pushes all of his chips into the middle (only about twice the original bet) but does not say raise or all-in. He simply pushes his chips in. The dealer, not realizing this, turns the next card. Soon after, he realizes that Player 3 has gone all-in. He argues that the card should stand because just pushing in chips without specifying is a call.

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I love how neither the players nor the dealers have any clue as to what's going the frig on at the table, let alone the friggin' rules. There is ONE AND ONLY ONE solution to this problem: CALL THE FLOOR.

al

[KCFire105]

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There is ONE AND ONLY ONE solution to this problem: CALL THE FLOOR.

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I hear of way too many players allowing way too many dealers to make rulings. Don't argue, politley call for the floor.