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Old 09-22-2005, 08:34 PM
Jeebus Jeebus is offline
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Default No Cut?!

So I went down to try a home game I was invited to over the weekend. It was a nice small buy in tournament with about 15 people playing.They keep track of winners for a payout after so many weeks, basically had a pretty nice thing going on. The first rule I am informed of by the host is that they do not cut. So I asked, "You mean no one wants to cut?" and was answered "No, we do not allow cuts."
At that point I thought it was alittle strange but since I had already bought in decided to go ahead and play. I busted out on a semi bluff and went home not caring. Once I startd thinking about it I grew more suspcious. From what I have read from the hosts emails, basically there are about 4 guys who win consistently. All four are closely associated with the house.
Question is....Would you go back?
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:40 PM
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I wouldn't bother.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:23 PM
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I wouldn't bother.

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Ditto
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:27 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: No Cut?!

No, and I would tell them exactly why. I would have made the point more forcefully at the game as well:

"So, the house doesn't protect against potential cheating by having someone other than the dealer cut the deck?"

Of course, if it was a self-shuffling game and I didn't know them all personally VERY WELL, I would have left earlier.
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:52 AM
Kyo Souma II Kyo Souma II is offline
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Default Re: No Cut?!

Not allowing a cut is the most illogical rule I've ever heard. What bad could cutting possibly do?

These guys are cheating idiots. Find a new game.

-kyo
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: No Cut?!

I agree it makes absolutely no sense. I wonder if they meant to say no chops?
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Old 10-01-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: I thought he meant \"chop\" too, but follow your gut

Your instincts are probably right (otherwise, you wouldn't play poker, right?) Play online if you have to-- where you never have to worry about bad dealing.
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: No Cut?!

There's not a single legitimate reason why cuts should not be allowed.
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:32 PM
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There's not a single legitimate reason why cuts should not be allowed.

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I agree 100%. In fact I think cuts should be required. your average poker player in a self-deal tourney doesn't know how to shuffle with the deck flat on the table- they pick up both halves and in the process of doing a bridge-shuffle, expose them inadvertantly to other players.
Any players who have seen these on the final shuffle now know one or two cards which are going to not come out in the hand, because they will end up being the bottom card and another card close to the bottom.
So even if there's no cheating going on, not cutting is a poor choice.
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Old 09-24-2005, 07:22 PM
StevieG StevieG is offline
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even if there's no cheating going on, not cutting is a poor choice

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This can't be emphasized enough.

Do they burn cards before dealing the flop, turn, and river? This is to minimize the impact of marking cards, and works even if cards are inadvertently marked.

The practices experienced in card games have been developed for a reason. Stick to them and you'll be well off.
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