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Old 09-22-2005, 12:13 PM
crosse91 crosse91 is offline
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Default Honesty. (l/c)

i personally had a horrible poker day yesterday. I lost approx. 1/3 of my roll. Pretty gross eh? I took a shot a limits above my roll and lost. Then i backed down to my usual limits and got pounded. No semi=bluffs would work. Never had a draw come in. Hit 3 sets in 5 hours+ of play. Sure the cards weren't great, but neither was my play. I am not dissappointed in the amount of money that was lost but rather how i lost that money. I would call with suited 1 gappers oop and then proceed to call a potsized bet with my pair of 8's. No wonder i lost so much. Thing is, there's always tomorrow. This is/was my big downswing and i'm ready to come out firing this afternoon for an hour and half. You can find me at 200nl b/c that's what my roll can support right now. And you know, bring your A game, b/c i'm going to have mine.



This was going to be a post about how not to stretch yourself thin, but instead its more self-help. Deal. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:20 PM
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Thanks for posting this.

I'm running bad. I'm down something like 10 buyins at 25 NL 6-max. In 5k hands, my losing sessions have outnumbered my winning sessions by something like 3:1. I know that the authors all say they have all gone broke at one point or another, but 10 buyins is a lot. One poster who I respect has said that there's no way a good player can ever go down more than 4. I wouldn't say I'm great at NL, but I also woulnd't say I'm bad. My results disagree with my self-assesment.

I'm up lifetime a lot, but most was cashed out to life stuff. For the first time in 18 months, if things continue the way they have, I'll soon be faced with the decision to reload or quit for good.

Reality bites sometimes, and the truth hurts.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:26 PM
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Thanks for posting this.

I'm running bad. I'm down something like 10 buyins at 25 NL 6-max. In 5k hands, my losing sessions have outnumbered my winning sessions by something like 3:1. I know that the authors all say they have all gone broke at one point or another, but 10 buyins is a lot. One poster who I respect has said that there's no way a good player can ever go down more than 4. I wouldn't say I'm great at NL, but I also woulnd't say I'm bad. My results disagree with my self-assesment.

I'm up lifetime a lot, but most was cashed out to life stuff. For the first time in 18 months, if things continue the way they have, I'll soon be faced with the decision to reload or quit for good.

Reality bites sometimes, and the truth hurts.

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that 4 buyin rule is really BS. good players can and have lost 4 buyins within an hour.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:31 PM
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that 4 buyin rule is really BS. good players can and have lost 4 buyins within an hour.

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I think that rule predates the current era, in which we can play 4 tables at once.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:49 PM
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I play mostly live and I have lost three buy-ins in a three hour session. I am not upset about it because I made the right play every time I got busted.

If you have a draw that puts you as the favorite in the current situation, you should have your money in the middle. That is what makes a good player good. To say that good players don't go down more than 4 buy-ins just isn't true. If you play long enough, you will have sessions where the right play will get you broke multiple times. Luckily for me its only happened once so far, but I'm certain it will happen again.

If you lose a hand (whether or not it busts you), analyze your play and find that you didn't make any mistakes, reload and continue playing as you were. The only time you should worry about your losses (bankroll not withstanding) is when you analyze the hand and find that you made mistakes. Truthfully, you should worry about your wins when you make mistakes too.
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:44 PM
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that 4 buyin rule is really BS. good players can and have lost 4 buyins within an hour.

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I think that rule predates the current era, in which we can play 4 tables at once.

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More tables does not = more variance.

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One poster who I respect has said that there's no way a good player can ever go down more than 4.

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This is bullshit plain and simple.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:23 PM
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This looks like a thinly veiled bad beat/bad play post.

So I get to chime in and tell everybody that, of the 53 times I was dealt a pocket pair yesterday (in 1005 hands), I didn't flop a single set [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

I made one boneheaded mistake for my stack and ended the day down 1 buyin. I should've broken even despite no sets but didn't; oh well.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:28 PM
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So I get to chime in and tell everybody that, of the 53 times I was dealt a pocket pair yesterday (in 1005 hands), I didn't flop a single set [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]


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You were just waiting for the opportunity to post this. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

A couple days ago, I ran into 3 boats in four straight hands. I won't even post the hands since I played poorly on 2 of the hands. Lost 3 buy-ins, but I'm well-bankrolled at 50NL.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:42 PM
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A couple days ago, I ran into 3 boats in four straight hands. I won't even post the hands since I played poorly on 2 of the hands. Lost 3 buy-ins, but I'm well-bankrolled at 50NL.

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You know, if you admitted you played the hands poorly, the fact that villains had boats is pretty inconsequential.

Go back and look at the hands -- just make sure you don't make the same mistake next time.

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Old 09-22-2005, 12:48 PM
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You know, if you admitted you played the hands poorly, the fact that villains had boats is pretty inconsequential.

Go back and look at the hands -- just make sure you don't make the same mistake next time.
-dB

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I know, it was just funny (well, not that funny) that I ended up losing to boats all three times. One of the players writes, "what are the chances of losing to a boat on two straight hands?". Two hands later, I flop the nut-flush draw, re-raise all-in, and get stacked by another boat. I went into "start playing better you dumba$$!"-mode and played solid poker for the rest of the session.
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