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09-20-2005, 04:02 PM
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Best way to learn poker? Yearly Plan Report
Hello my 2+2 Mentors!
I'm checking to see if I'm going about learning poker the right way. I've been playing seriously for a year. My objectives last year were. Read 40 good poker books. Win at .50/1 limit holdem online Win at 2/5 limit live. Win at .5/1 no limit holdem online. Win at 1/2 no limit live. Play in homegames. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++ Yearly Report Card ************************************************** ******** Read good poker books. A Done. I also read SSH 12 times and HEPFAP 7 times and about 40 other books. Win at .50/1 limit holdem online B Done. 30,000 hands 2.3 bb/100 win rate Win at 2/5 limit live. F unmet, 8 sessions down overall Win no limit holdem online. B Inconclusive, only 4000 hands 8bb/100 win rate (.25/.50 to 3/5) Win at no limit live. F unmet, only 6 sessions, down overall. (.25/.25 , 1/2, 5/5) Objectives for this year: Learn short handed and heads up holdem: Beat 1/2 2/4, 3/6 and 5/10 No limit online. Get in 20,000 hands of NL. Learn deepstack no limit. I've been just playing shortstack so far. Read 15 new poker books reread all the best books. My library (ones I remeber): 2x means I've read it twice. 2x Theory of Poker 7x Holdem Poker for Advanced Players Tournement Poker for Advanced Players 12x Small Stakes Holdem 2x Getting Started in Holdem Poker Essays Poker Essays II Poker Essays III Gambling Theory and Other Topics 2x Harrington on Holdem I 2x Harrington on Holdem II Inside the Poker Mind Mike Caro's Book of Tells Ace on the River Weighing the Odds in Holdem Super System Killer Poker (bad book) Killer Poker Online How good is your Limit Holdem Pot Limit and No Limit Poker Middle Limit Holdem Improve your Poker No Limit Holdem /McEvoy & Daugherty Championship Pot limit and No Limit Holdem / TJ Clouter & McEvoy Winning Low Limit Holdem (2nd ed) Internet Texas Holdem Play Poker Like the Pro's (Bad book) Ken Warren's Big book of Poker (Bad book) What books should I read next? I want to read all the poker literature. I plan to speclialze in holdem for a while and then branch out to different games when I can play winning holdem. Meet good players to talk and discuss hands around Ancaster/Hamilton/Toronto. Post hands that I have touble with on 2+2 1/week , reply to hands posted daily. Get a rake back deal // I won't comment on this further if this is inappropriate here. Figure out why I do poorly live. Play in some small stakes friendly home games around Hamilton/Ancaster/Toronto What do you think of my plan? Suggestions? What's your yearly plan? 
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09-20-2005, 04:07 PM
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Re: Best way to learn poker, Yearly Plan
40 books seems like a bit much. I'd focus on maybe 3-5, preferably 2+2 ones of course! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
The best way to become a better poker player is the same way that you get to Carnegie Hall... Practice, Practice, Practice!
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09-21-2005, 02:51 AM
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Re: Best way to learn poker, Yearly Plan
[ QUOTE ]
40 books seems like a bit much. I'd focus on maybe 3-5, preferably 2+2 ones of course! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The best way to become a better poker player is the same way that you get to Carnegie Hall... Practice, Practice, Practice! [/ QUOTE ] Hi Jon, Yes last year I went wide in my poker readings and read a lot of books. This year I think I should go deep, i.e. read HEPFAP/TOP/SSH once each month to keep my limit game sharp while reading HoH and NL&PL to keep my NL game sharp. I think I'll only read 15 new books this year, but read fewer books more numbers of times.... I think I'm at the stage now where reading is as necessary as practice... so I'm spending about half my poker time not playing but posting and reading.... derick
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#4
09-21-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: Best way to learn poker, Yearly Plan
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I think I'm at the stage now where reading is as necessary as practice [/ QUOTE ] Reading is good. Read as much as you can! BTW, the secret to sucess in poker (and other things) is not practice, practice, practice... it is Research, Practice, Analyze, Repeat.
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09-21-2005, 01:47 PM
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Re: Best way to learn poker, Yearly Plan
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[ QUOTE ] I think I'm at the stage now where reading is as necessary as practice [/ QUOTE ] Reading is good. Read as much as you can! BTW, the secret to sucess in poker (and other things) is not practice, practice, practice... it is Research, Practice, Analyze, Repeat. [/ QUOTE ] That is an accurate statement; however, IMO one would be better off spending more time playing than researching. Concepts are more easily understood when seen in practice, rather than in a textbook. But that's just my $0.02.
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09-23-2005, 08:44 AM
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Re: Best way to learn poker, Yearly Plan
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That is an accurate statement; however, IMO one would be better off spending more time playing than researching. Concepts are more easily understood when seen in practice, rather than in a textbook. But that's just my $0.02. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously you need to play, but if you neglect the research and analysis, you are leaving alot of money on the table. Different peope learn in different ways, so there is no perfect allocation, but, you must do all three to truly be successful!
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09-23-2005, 12:56 PM
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Re: Best way to learn poker, Yearly Plan
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BTW, the secret to sucess in poker (and other things) is not practice, practice, practice... it is Research, Practice, Analyze, Repeat. [/ QUOTE ] This is the key to everything in life, quite frankly, including interpersonal relationships. The only differences are really the methods of research and practice.
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#8
09-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: Best way to learn poker, Yearly Plan
Thanks for all the replies,
I like the advice to do more analysis. I plan on doing more analysis of hands I have questions about, probably on the 2+2 forums. I think the advice to play more and get more experience is good but I'm playing fewer tables than I used to. I'm trying to play well on one 2/4 or 3/6 NL table rather go through the motions on four .50/1.00 NL tables. My primary goal is to be a winning 5/10 NL player in a years time. derick
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#9
09-20-2005, 04:15 PM
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Re: Best way to learn poker? Yearly Plan Report
you're setting out a plan and sticking to it.
One thing you might consider adding to your checklist, if you're goal is actually as you stated (to be a learn poker) is to learn one new game a month (stud this month, omaha next, ...). Not only will this help you move toward your goal, you might be surprised how much it helps you hold 'em game too.
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#10
09-20-2005, 04:41 PM
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Re: Best way to learn poker? Yearly Plan Report
Sorry to say this, but I think that you are being a little too ambitious here.
You list learning alot about no limit, which is good. However, I think that you should just focus on playing a certain level and play it until you are comfortable. How many hands do you need before you know you can beat a certain level? Reading books is great, but reading and digesting books are completely different. Maybe you are really good at getting what the books are telling you, but in NL I think it'll steer you down a dangerous path (misusing of literature). Here's a thought on why your live play stuggles. BOREDOM. It tends to kill me unless there's something/someone interesting to help keep me focused. Last session it was my obsession to get every cent out of a guy. Just a few thoughts. It's definitely a good idea to have goals. I just think you are overshooting a little bit.
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