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#1
09-20-2005, 05:09 AM
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should I of folded this house 20+2
Villan looks to me like hes made a house. He has gone from checking all the way to betting 480 in to a pot of 60. Player two called so probably has an ace. I have a house but is it good. What should I have done on this
rable '12793567 1' Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: bigolo (1620 in chips) Seat 2: guit3457 (1460 in chips) Seat 3: <font color="red"> Hero </font> (1470 in chips) Seat 4: AW_Z3 (1470 in chips) Seat 5: K9Brandi (1730 in chips) Seat 6: PanJ (1440 in chips) Seat 7: pokafiend (1480 in chips) Seat 8: beesonosu (1330 in chips) Seat 9: sirius144 (1500 in chips) PanJ: posts small blind 10 pokafiend: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to <font color="red"> Hero </font> [6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] beesonosu: folds sirius144: folds bigolo: folds guit3457: folds <font color="red"> Hero </font> : calls 20 AW_Z3: folds K9Brandi: folds PanJ: calls 10 pokafiend: checks *** FLOP *** [6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] PanJ: checks pokafiend: checks <font color="red"> Hero </font>:Checks *** TURN *** [6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] PanJ: checks pokafiend: checks <font color="red">Hero </font> : checks *** RIVER *** [6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] PanJ: bets 480 pokafiend: calls 480 <font color="red"> Hero </font> : calls 480 
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#2
09-20-2005, 05:15 AM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
You my friend, suffer from MUTBS (monsters under the bed syndrome).
You have earlier tried convincing yourself that folding an AA overpair is correct. Now you get a full house and don't bet it at all. Stop being scared of losing hands. Play to win them. Bet your set on this flop. Try to get all your chips in on the turn. You are giving up so much value by playing scared that it may even be impossible for you to be a winning player.
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#3
09-20-2005, 05:20 AM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
Alright mate what do you think this 480 bet means. What do u put him on and are u prepared to go broke at level one with this hand. Dont make it sound like the situation is clear cut its simply not.
And I dont see what is wrong with checking the flop or the turn for that matter.
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#4
09-20-2005, 05:22 AM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
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Alright mate what do you think this 480 bet means. What do u put him on and are u prepared to go broke at level one with this hand. Dont make it sound like the situation is clear cut its simply not. And I dont see what is wrong with checking the flop or the turn for that matter. [/ QUOTE ] If you don't see why it is wrong to check on the flop and the turn with what most likely is the best hand then I am sure you are a losing player. This is really really elementary poker stuff, you know.
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#5
09-20-2005, 05:35 AM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
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If you don't see why it is wrong to check on the flop and the turn with what most likely is the best hand then I am sure you are a losing player. [/ QUOTE ] Alriht [censored]. Im not a losing player far from it. Im trying to win a big pot here early but I can easily get away from this if the board become to scary. I have very little invested and the pot is small.
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#6
09-20-2005, 05:44 AM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
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[ QUOTE ] If you don't see why it is wrong to check on the flop and the turn with what most likely is the best hand then I am sure you are a losing player. [/ QUOTE ] Alriht [censored]. Im not a losing player far from it. Im trying to win a big pot here early but I can easily get away from this if the board become to scary. I have very little invested and the pot is small. [/ QUOTE ] What you have "invested" is completely irrelevant. And why are you worrying about the board becoming to scary? Are you seriously looking for ways to get away from a flopped set? And I am fairly certain that you are not a winning player. You have huge fundamental leaks.
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#7
09-20-2005, 06:43 AM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
Why should you think about getting away from the hand if it gets scary?
Try to make the most out of it instead. You have a great hand, it's disguised and will probably be paid off by any ace out there. You shouldn't be afraid of people sitting with draws, you should bet enough on the flop and the turn that they make mistakes by calling. I'd bet maybe 20-30 on the flop, and 2/3 the pot on the turn, if they call and make a bigger full house, so be it.
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#8
09-20-2005, 01:06 PM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
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[ QUOTE ] If you don't see why it is wrong to check on the flop and the turn with what most likely is the best hand then I am sure you are a losing player. [/ QUOTE ] Alriht [censored]. Im not a losing player far from it. Im trying to win a big pot here early but I can easily get away from this if the board become to scary. I have very little invested and the pot is small. [/ QUOTE ] How is this board scary? This is one of the least scary boards I can think of. Maybe if the flush draw hit without you having a full house. Or definately if a 7 hit on the river you would probably fold. But the way it played out, you could not have hoped for a better board.
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#9
09-20-2005, 01:25 PM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
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[ QUOTE ] If you don't see why it is wrong to check on the flop and the turn with what most likely is the best hand then I am sure you are a losing player. [/ QUOTE ] Alriht [censored]. Im not a losing player far from it. Im trying to win a big pot here early but I can easily get away from this if the board become to scary. I have very little invested and the pot is small. [/ QUOTE ]You're trying to win a big pot, but you're not placing any bets to help the pot grow and when someone does put big money in the pot you think maybe you should walk away. I don't think your thinking is consistent. Maybe you're worried that a bet on the flop or turn will scare the others off, so you're waiting for them to bet. If so, your plan has worked, call the bet (or raise). (I see from the hand record that you did call the 480, which suggests you probably were beat -- otherwise no post -- oh well.)
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#10
09-20-2005, 01:03 PM
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Re: should I of folded this house 20+2
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[ QUOTE ] Alright mate what do you think this 480 bet means. What do u put him on and are u prepared to go broke at level one with this hand. Dont make it sound like the situation is clear cut its simply not. And I dont see what is wrong with checking the flop or the turn for that matter. [/ QUOTE ] If you don't see why it is wrong to check on the flop and the turn with what most likely is the best hand then I am sure you are a losing player. This is really really elementary poker stuff, you know. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this guy.
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