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Old 09-17-2005, 07:10 AM
twolf twolf is offline
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Default How to proceed with this flopped monster

After feeling burnt out from NLHE and trying to clear 30k raked hands(15k raked hands so far, 24k actual hands so far this month) at MultiPoker I tried to regain some focus by playing PLO and with good results. Of course there are spots that make me feel like a newbie again. This happens to be one of them...

This is at the $25. I get A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button with $30.10.

There are 6 limpers and one fold to me, I raise to $1.25, blinds clear out, one limper folds, 3 limpers call, 1 fold, c/o calls.

Flop is Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 checks, c/o(covers me) bets $2 into ~$7ish pot, I...

I cover the rest of the players in the hand.
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Old 09-17-2005, 12:24 PM
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While you have the current nuts, you don't have any redraws to better nut hands. You aren't a huge favorite over someone with a set and backdoor flush outs, especially if they also have chopping outs as well.

I think you pot here and and pot the turn on any non-pairing card. Obviously, the best card for you on the turn is a low-mid heart.

Edit: I forgot to add that the worst case scenario for you is that someone has the same straight with backdoor flush out and is essentially free-rolling you.
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Old 09-17-2005, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed with this flopped monster

TTP gives him 4 boat redraws.
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Old 09-17-2005, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed with this flopped monster

I would pot it right back at him. Most likely you are tied, and he is freerolling to a bigger hand.
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Old 09-17-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed with this flopped monster

How is he freerolling while I have top two, the only card that hurts me is a ten.

I havent looked at twodimes either but i'm probably a big favorite against a set of tens here.
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Old 09-17-2005, 01:30 PM
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How is he freerolling while I have top two, the only card that hurts me is a ten.

I havent looked at twodimes either but i'm probably a big favorite against a set of tens here.

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You are a 7 to 1 favourite against a set of tens, and a 2 to 1 favourite against AAxx ds (with two backdoor flush draws).

You're only a 55/45 favourite over a hand like KJxx ds (with two backdoor flush draws).

The only hand you have to fear is AAKJ which is a 2 to 1 favourite over you no matter how it's suited. You have to be pretty paranoid to worry about this hand though.
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:42 PM
KDawgCometh KDawgCometh is offline
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Default Re: How to proceed with this flopped monster

I'd definetly bump it up to $6 here. You'll get a lot of action from a set, and in this game, you'll probably get a fair amount of action regardless because of how dumb many of your opponents are. I don't want to pot it because I don't want to shut out players, but a solid raise here can build a solid pot and we can pot a good turn card
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed with this flopped monster

I definitely reraise here, to see what I am up against. If you reraised, I don't mind get it all-in here with this rainbow flop. You don't want to get yourself into the situation where the turn and river create a backdoor flush and you have to make a decision on the river. If I had a flush draw, I wouldn't mind playing it slower.
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: How to proceed with this flopped monster

Given the pot size and I have position, there will be no river play. Money will be thrown into pot by then.
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:12 PM
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You likely have a small edge here with little to no chance of losing. Push push push.
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