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Old 09-15-2005, 11:31 PM
kiemo kiemo is offline
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Default The all to easy to play 73s hand.

Only on first orbit, so reads arent really known yet. UTG2 though has won about 15bb and played 60% of those hands


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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>


Was hoping to knock out the two remaining with the flop raise. And on the turn one back to me I make the call. Two back to me and I got befuddled.
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

I'd peel.
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

I'm not a fan of the flop raise. I would just call. I really dislike that turn bet too but you have an easy call with the bazillion outs you have.
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

14 outs, I think they are all clean (the 7's may not be if someone is holding a 5 though), pot is what 12 BB with 2 to call, that's 6-1, so I think you have pot odds to call. If no improvement on river then fold to any bet I think.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

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14 outs, I think they are all clean (the 7's may not be if someone is holding a 5 though), pot is what 12 BB with 2 to call, that's 6-1, so I think you have pot odds to call. If no improvement on river then fold to any bet I think.

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I don't think a 7 will help us here. SB bet/calling the flop and then donking the turn Ace looks an awful lot like 2 pair. And if his 2-pair is Ax, our 2 pair of 7s and 3s is worthless. I'm discounting our 2 pair outs for that reason.

But I still agree it's a call. (And, btw, I thought he was on 2 pair before reading results, even though I'm not grunching today.)
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

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14 outs, I think they are all clean (the 7's may not be if someone is holding a 5 though), pot is what 12 BB with 2 to call, that's 6-1, so I think you have pot odds to call. If no improvement on river then fold to any bet I think.

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What he said + Fold the flop.

Some outs might be wrong(7's suck) but 6:1 you need 7 outs... you have more.
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:50 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

fold that flop, and the turn call is easy.

you have 10-13+ outs (could have like a million)
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

I folded the hand thinking my baby flush would be no good if it hit and my straight was unlikley to hit. I didnt feel good about the fold though, which is why I posted the hand

River came 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB flips A6o
UTG2 flips the pockets fives.

grr. cant decide if UTG2 turn raise was good or not.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

Fold the flop. The SB donking the turn means he has a pair, which means your bottom pair seven kicker is toast. The few times you are ahead, you are unlikely to clear the field on this draw heavy board and are likely to get outdrawn by a flush, str8, or overcards.

The fold on the turn is really bad IMO. You have a monster draw with pair + FD.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: The all to easy to play 73s hand.

why are you betting this turn?
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